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[–] hydroxide@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't give a shit about Hamas politics, I care about the 30000 killed. I care that people redirect every conversation about saving Palestinians to "but do you condemn Hamas", which you are doing right now.

Ask yourself. who in their right mind would NOT be on the other side of the spectrum of a genocide?

[–] avater@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I don't give a shit about Hamas politics

You should, their killing of innocents was a huge kickstart for the latest offensive on Palestine...

Ask yourself. who in their right mind would NOT be on the other side of the spectrum of a genocide?

Since the Hamas want to eradicate all Jews and Israel itself there is genocide on both sides of the spectrum. And instead of choosing the lesser evil between those too, I'd rather not choose at all.

[–] hydroxide@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You should, their killing of innocents was a huge kickstart for the latest offensive on Palestine...

The kickstart for this entire catastrophe did NOT start on October 7th. You have no idea what you are talking about and are just both sidesing a genocide. The United States Institute of Peace, an official federal institute, reported in 2009:

The charter itself contains statements that reflect a lack of hostility toward Jews on the basis of religion—for example, as article 31 states, “Under Islam, the followers of the three [monotheistic] religions: Islam, Christianity, and Judaism may coexist peacefully and safely.” Whether or not one accepts the statement as true, it is incompatible with claims of a religious obligation to kill Jews.

Hamas has, in practice, moved well beyond its charter. Indeed, Hamas has been carefully and consciously adjusting its political program for years and has sent repeated signals that it may be ready to begin a process of coexisting with Israel.

Not only do they not have outspoken cries for genocide, they are not in a position of power to commit a genocide. The UN's own criteria:

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about it's physical destruction in whole or in part.

It took less than 3 days to quell the attack on their soil. Whereas in Gaza, the bombing campaigns have levelled 50% of all residential infrastructure as of a week ago. The prime minister has forcibly displaced millions and is now signaling that the IDF will be moving in. Settlement developers have been signaled they will be given land. Not only that, they have killed over 1% of the population in the bombing campaign alone. On top of that, 4 of 5 of all of food insecure are currently in Gaza. This will kill tens if not hundreds of thousands. Instead of listening to the ICJ's ruling that provisional measures NEED to be taken, which is a binding order, they have ignored the international courts and the globe has defunded UNRWA.

The only active genocide occurring is being carried out by the Israeli government. But PLEASE both sides this genocide. For you it is CRUCIAL that you stand up for Israeli interests, for some reason.