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[–] esserstein@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's mostly a misunderstanding of what is valued in German society. The common trope is that German society covets precision. This is not the case. German society covets unwavering precision in the adherence to norms. To the point where innovation is akin to revolution in the negative sense, and pigheadedness in procedure is considered a workplace virtue. In the mean time nothing gets done. Source: expat in Germany.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Source: expat in Germany.

Is this the same as a migrant?

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

Yes, as long as they're also white and middle/upper class!

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

No, the way it's often used is closer to "posh guest worker".

[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Expat moved there non-permanently
Immigrant moved there permanently

Though if I ever somehow became an expat, I wouldn't use the word because of how people associate it.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

No it's just about moneymaking and education level. If you're a foreigner and highly educated and get a good paying job like IT consultant or doctor, you're an expat. If you're low educated and get a low paying job like construction or factory or no job, you're a migrant. One is liked more than the other, hence the difference they make. The first doesn't speak local language, but does speak English, and few people care. The second doesn't speak local language and no English and is disliked for it.How long you stay is not very relevant. AfD doesn't hare expats as much as other migrants, for example...

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Immigrant = Someone who has moved to another country permanently. Migrant = Someone who has moved to another country temporarily.

Expat is often used by western migrants who don't like the word "migrant".

I take issue with it because people classify an Indian doctor moved to the US as a migrant but an American doctor eho has moved to Europe is an expat.