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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I said this in another thread-

Most Americans aren't interested or even capable of fighting in a civil war. When you live paycheck-to-paycheck, you're not going to abandon your family to fight on the front lines.

And a huge percentage of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck.

Texas would have to have a draft.

Good luck with that.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

The only kind of draft they'd take is the beer kind.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention states themselves are never more than 60%/40% leaning either way. It's not like the more homogeneous populations of the 1800s.

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago

Bingo. If Texas tried to leave, a HUGE chunk of the population would revolt against the State of Texas. Many more would just leave. Very little good would remain.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not to mention that most of them are probably too unfit to even be a soldier xd

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The tech bros in Austin are not going to the front lines. Front line at airport, maybe.

[–] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

i mean, i guess it's not too different from the of civil war

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You're wrong though. The general public is more likely to engage in civil unrest when they're struggling. The reality though is that while many Americans might be living paycheck to paycheck, they're not poor and not struggling. They are just bad at managing their finances and they have a lot to lose.

If you have more to lose than to gain, you won't participate in a civil war. But when you're a slave working in a cotton field, you have nothing to lose, only something to gain.

The idea that your average American is so poor is just laughable.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Bad at managing their finances

Either you're being purposefully deceitful, or you have a horrible understanding of macroeconomics. But please, let's just continue to ignore the elephants named record-inflation, rent records and housing crisis in the room.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

There is a term for this called the "Valley of revolt" basically a people need enough empowerment to revolt but not enough to feel heard.

Also it's not necessarily just "bad with finances" it's that our expected standard of living doesn't match our actual standard of living. Rising cost and stagnant wages and all that.

[–] iquanyin@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

over half a million live on the streets. flat out homeless. and then, the working poor, which you are if you live paycheck to paycheck. also, if you can’t live unless you work, you’re the working class.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I'm just imagining the sales of golf carts or those scooters going through the roof because Americans cant run a couple of miles during a civil war.