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Trump didn't get into office because he got the most votes.
In fact voting as important as it is doesn't actually decide what the government does. There was a whole Princeton study about this recently that your vote essentially has no impact on what the government chooses to do.
Voting is largely a public demonstration of how much we are willing to tolerate the government turning on us in any given year. The fewer people that show up to vote the more quickly we march towards fascist dystopia.
"voting is stupid and doesn't do anything"
"Not voting leads fo fascism", ergo voting avoids fascism.
My comment is not long enough for you to have misquoted me twice. You can literally read the entire comment while you are responding to it even if you're on mobile.
Yes voting is important, but it doesn't have the impact we often think it does.
The people we vote for aren't necessarily going to be able to make policies we want, That's not the reason why voting is so important right now. It might be one day, and I hold out hope that if I keep voting for democracy, it'll happen.
Voting right now is basically an up or down vote on "should we keep seeking democracy?"
The Republican party is perfectly willing to make policies we do not want, and their end goal is actually the end of democracy.
So although our votes won't necessarily compel the government to take actions we want it to take, they can help prevent it from taking actions we would like it to not take.
It's a shitty deal, but considering the alternative....
Yes, in a democracy the elected government will not be the government that literally everyone voted for.
No, voting in the United States is not largely a public demonstration on how much we are willing to tolerate the government.
Yes, the fewer people that show up to vote, the more quickly we march towards fascist dystopia: exactly my point and exactly anathema to your false assertion that voting does not matter.
Well then it's a good thing I never asserted that voting doesn't matter.
"your vote essentially has no impact on what the government chooses to do"
Don't want you to strain yourself reading your own directly previous comment that you then contradicted in the subsequent paragraph.
I also went on to explain why just because you don't choose what the government does, doesn't mean your vote is irrelevant.
It's also not me making that claim It's Princeton University that had a particularly well cited study showing that your vote actually does not influence the policy decisions of lawmakers.
Your vote is about preventing the creation of policy that is even worse. It's not about enabling the creation of policy that is good. We are not at the phase of our relationship with our government where we can make them do good things. If we don't keep working towards that we will backslide into fascism.
You have the wrong expectations if you think your vote is going to tell the government what to do. We're just not there yet. You still have to vote If you'd like to get there one day.
"Well then it's a good thing I never asserted that".
Nobody has these expectations you are talking about except for you.
If you were just going to agree with what I'm saying, you can just type "yea".
You can save all that time you spent splitting hairs.