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77 Groups Worldwide Back Genocide Lawsuit Against Biden in U.S. Court (theintercept.com)

submitted 10 months ago by Keeponstalin@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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According to Law for Palestine, a human rights and legal advocacy organization, there have been at least 500 instances of Israeli lawmakers, officials, and officers inciting genocide.

Sourani said that the statements by Israeli officials, along with the actual blockade, the indiscriminate attacks on civilians and civilian buildings, the basic lack of safe space, and the mass displacement of millions of Palestinians makes it clear: “All of this is tantamount to genocide.”

The plaintiffs responded to the administration’s motion to dismiss on December 22, arguing that there is precedent for U.S. courts to adjudicate questions surrounding genocide and that their legal challenge is about more than the actions of a foreign state. Rather, the plaintiffs argued, their injuries are “fairly traceable” to the actions of the U.S. government. “The suggestion that the U.S. does not or cannot influence Israel borders on the absurd, not least because the Israeli government acknowledges its actions could not happen without U.S. license and support, and Defendants have boasted about their coordination with and influence over Israel,” the plaintiffs wrote.

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[–] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that “anti-semitism” dog-whistle is just pure racism

ahh alright, calling out anti-semitism is racist now? You're watering down the definition of both of these issues. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitic. That's not up to debate for me.

(which only a racist would think), hence Israel represents all of them, hence criticism of Israel is anti-semitism.

okay, typical Motte-and-bailey. you compared Israel to Nazi Germany. I called you out on that. Moreover, I called Netanyahu "full of shit" and said "IDF is committing reprehensible war crimes". I'm criticizing Israel. Doesn't make me an Anti-Semite. This kind of stuff always happens. "Israel is like Nazi Germany!!1" (Motte) and "Oh I'm just criticizing Israel" (Bailey)

but it even has already exceed the rate of killing of civilians of pretty much everybody but the Nazis

You're making this up. Please have at least the decency and give me sources.

but in terms of the rate of civilian deaths it certainly has already exceeded everything else but the actual Holocaust

The hamas killed 1200 people in a single say. that would be 108000 in 90 day, exceeding the "rate of civilian deaths" of the IDF bombing. Is this a shitty argument? yes, it is awful, and so is yours. It is a fucking tragedy and it needs to end. But why do you use these numbers to desperately frame Israel as Nazis?

Important to note: between May and July 1944, the Nazis killed over 400 000 Hungarian Jews in Auschwitz.

Again: Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is detached from reality, and antisemitic. You are not helping anyone by doubling down on claiming it is.

Think a second about those who are actually affected by the conflict, who understand how complex and twisted it is and who genuinely look for ways to find peace. People who oppose the war, the occupation, Netanyahu's government, Hamas. These people are drowned out by westeners entirely unaffected by the conflict, claiming to know better what is going on, and resort to simplistic, tribalistic and hateful language.