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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Exactly how I feel about the Souls games. How the fuck am I supposed to make any real progress when the only resource I have to do so is lost each time I die?

I have a full time job and a kid, I don't have time to grind out a boss for hours. Can't I just enjoy the world with an easy mode?

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the person you were replying to, and I am glad that the Souls formula isn't the norm (I've played all of them, and haven't finished a one)...

But the Soulses get a pass from me personally, because their whole thing is about being present in the moment and overcoming what appear to be unbeatable odds. It's the closest thing in modern gaming that gave me the feeling of being crushed by, and overcoming, the first Airship level in Mario 3.

That said, I'm not against accessibility option in a Souls game, so long as they're optional.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Sometimes I like the Souls experience, and sometimes I just want a decent story and fun gameplay (e.g. Yakuza games). Give me all the options and I'll decide based on the game.

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh hey sugar_in_your_tea - I'm starting to recognize you from a couple of other comment threads in this community :)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope that's a good thing :)

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Haha yeah, I remember we disagreed on something, but now I can't remember what. Can't have been too fundamental, anyway -- see you around!

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 9 months ago

Thats what the soul items are for. You eat those while standing in front of a bonfire about to level up. Because they are an item, you dont lose them when you die, so they are safe exp.

Especially boss souls. If you dont want the specific weapon that boss makes, you eat that shit when you need the level boost.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Exactly. I cannot stand how interested I am in soulsborne storylines because I'm simply not willing to put myself through playing that shit any longer.

The only soulsborne I've beaten is an "easy mode" modded Elden Ring. Nothing worse than watching a game LP on youtube because I really want to play it but don't enjoy it. (Bloodborne, lookin at you)

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I feel like souls games are the exception. The game is about the cycle of dying and reviving, and the progress you make isn't in game, but in game knowledge. You might not like it, but it's kind of the theme of the game.

And if you really want to experience those games, DKS1 has a really easy to perform soul dupe that will make you overpowered as hell in no time. Then you can enjoy the game. It's cheating, sure, but so is asking for an easy mode in a game it's not intender for, at least for me, and I'm totally okay with cheating when I don't want to do the full experience. In single player games, ofc.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can't play Dark Souls without it being hard. There is no gameplay loop if you can just squash everyone in your path. I went out of my way to beat Souls 3 and Elden Ring without upgrading my character to make it more fun. If you want to just walk around then play something else.

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I agree that the game falls apart without challenge, but the challenge will vary by player, especially those of different abilities. So while I wouldn't use them (until I get older and slower maybe), I support the addition of optional accessibility options in Souls games. They aren't a fun little experiment anymore - they're a proven formula, and I believe it can survive tweaking.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't even want an easy mode, per se, at the very least just a "medium" mode. Give the bosses like 5% less health, make them 5% slower, etc. Just take the edge off the difficulty so that it's not so unbearable.