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Biden slams Trump as ‘willing to sacrifice democracy’ in Jan 6 anniversary speech
(www.independent.co.uk)
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When Biden wins, who's betting we'll see Trump on the ballot again in 2028? And if not, in 2032? And so on, and so on...and if not him one of his kids...and if not them someone far more insidious and intelligent than them all...this is only the beginning. Trump is just the tip of evil rearing its horrific head.
What frightens me: who is going to be the next Trump? Let's face it, there will likely be another Republican president at some point. Our election system almost guarantees it. Will they do the decent thing and try to work towards the betterment of the country, or will they continue their predecessors' path towards dictatorship? The other front-runners don't inspire much confidence in the former (exception: maybe Christie, but there's virtually no way he'll win).
Nearly every Republican that voted to impeach Trump lost their primary vote, so I only see them going further right, and a lot of people seem to be okay with this.
If it's someone like Mike Johnson then people are going to become nostalgic for Trump lmao
There are no other front runners. They are all polling double digits behind Trump.
True. He will win the primary. I'm saying that everyone, but Steve Christie, is more than happy to continue down the path Trump started. This is a trend I doubt will change after Trump is gone.
Steve?
short for Stevetopher
We’re living in a time when creating extremists is too easy. People used to have to stand in little rooms full of disgruntled people and yell into a microphone. They had to organize and create newspapers and pamphlets. They had to have money to spread their message. They had to lose money to spread their message in hopes of taking power. It took years to rile up enough people to create problems.
Now, any dangerous person has the ability to reach an audience with ease.
It has gotten so bad that even people who aren’t even remotely connected to the internet are extremists. Pawpaw with his flip phone stands at the gas station being radicalized by his old work buddy.
I actually feel like I have to just have faith that everything will work out and our system can save itself.
I hope we don’t end up having to rebuild it all one day with some big nasty lesson we learn and then forget again.
Republican politicians only care about winning. If Trump fails yet again, they will change their strategy. The right wing base are mostly subservient people so they'll fall in line.
Fascist movements oftentimes fizzle out. There's generally a cult of personality involved with these movements, and when the leader dies it tends to fade away. Trump isn't young nor is he healthy, it's very unlikely he'll live to 2028. Same goes for a lot of his supporters in the boomer generation.
Sure there is a good number of fashy types in the younger generations but not enough to win an election.
Most important thing is that young people go out and vote in this election.
Please stop conflating Boomers with Trump. I'm def a Boomer and I hate the guy. Also check out the faces in the 1/6 crowd; plenty of younger types there...
That's cool, but the data says 53% of boomers voted Trump last election. The majority of voters of younger generations voted Biden.
If it makes you feel better, 66% of the silent generation voted for Trump. Of course the logic that they are dying off applies to them even more so than with boomers.
And yes, this is all about the margins, but that's just how elections go.
53% is not insignificant, but it's not in "let's generalize the generation" territory. (Not saying that you intended to do that, but that may be the appearance.)
Note this terrifying poll recently that shows Trump beating Biden 37% to 33% in under-35s: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/01/trump-biden-latino-voters-poll
It's one poll and likely overstating Trump support in the general, but it's absolutely shocking to me for Trump to be leading any poll any time in that age group. My assumptions would have been Biden up 20+ points for that demographic. But propaganda works, and people's capacity to forget in 2024 seems rivaled only by their capacity to not pay attention in the first place. We need to seriously consider that reliable demographic assumptions are breaking down in the worst ways possible.
I wouldn't be too sure Biden will win. Trump appears to be beating Biden in the polls at the moment.
Hmm, I don't understand why my upvote/downivote ratio was so low on this comment: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/