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[โ€“] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The sheer avalanche of religious bullshit in the Finnish Military.

[โ€“] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Basically:

Have mental issues? Here, would you like to talk to a field-pastor? What? Whats a "therapist"?

Alright, time for a lecture on "justifications of violence in self-defense, blabla god blabla christ". Wheres the secular moral discussion?

The main audiorium building of the brigade was straight up a church, covered in christian paraphernalia.

There are several military positions that are straight up just copied over from church hierarchy. My direct superior during initial boot camp was a freaking military deacon.

it was the christian way or the highway, and it fucking sucked. I am atheist and there was ZERO consideration for anyone who wasn't christian. You'd think they'd get with the times, but this particular stuff is alive and well in that particular institution. I did not see it coming.

[โ€“] GreenCrush@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This was very interesting to read about, thank you. In the United States, we all consider Finland to be extremely progressive, and ahead of us in many ways. So this was odd to hear. Even my American friends who have been in the military have told me about visiting real therapists while on base.

[โ€“] kabukimeow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don't know many military details (as a woman i didn't have to go there) but i know my brother talked to a psychologist there many times and they helped him (we're in finland)

[โ€“] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 3 points 2 years ago

I mean, the Finnish military should have inherited some things from the Russian imperial military, so this is to be expected. And it was a nationalist and traditionalist force which fought against Bolsheviks and won, getting itself a country (this kinda gets forgotten since the public image of Finland is very progressive and almost leftist now). And military is the most conservative institution in any country usually. Still weird.