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A recent post collected some comments by moderator Yobuckstopshere which were reported for being Covid misinformation. Further, comments calling out the misinformation were being removed.

This was reported to me, and after a short examination, I engaged the lemmy.world site admins who took the following actions:

Yobuckstopshere was removed as moderator from both Politics and World News. The comments were removed, and they were banned for 3 days.

This is tough for me since I value their contributions to Lemmy, and why I had to recuse myself beyond getting the Admins involved, but if it were anyone else, the comments would have been removed and the user banned, and so here we are.

Similarly, I don't like exposing behind the scenes drama so to speak, but I also believe in transparency in moderation action. It's why I reply to posts and comments before I remove them citing exactly why they are being removed. I feel everyone deserves to know why action is being taken.

Unlike reddit, there is a process for removing moderators who appear to have been acting in bad faith. Your first line of defense is other moderators, but we are also in regular contact with the lemmy.world admins whose decision is final.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks so much!

I've had to contact you about that mod more than a few times. You always took action and gave them plenty of chance to fix their behavior.

I wonder how many others got the weird PMs from that mod where if you down voted him often he'd vaugely threaten you for it saying he can see who down votes what

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is a weird flex on the face of it. We have better things to do than determining where up and downvotes are coming from, unless it's a suspicious amount coming from a bot farm or something like that. Vote manipulation needs to be examined, but not your random downvotes.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I got it twice.

Both from threads where hed have the single up vote from himself and 20-50 down votes from everyone else. So I don't know if he was sending them to everyone or what.

Also, I didn't remember it at the time, but now I remember when Lemmy was just taking off and this sub was asking for mods. One of the top mods stated requirements was potential mods would not remove misinformation because that would be biased against Republicans....

https://i.imgur.com/0Maach1.jpg

In fairness, I only saw misinformation posts from that one you just got rid of.

But thought you should know the whole mod team (except probably you as an admin) had to say that misinformation was acceptable on this sub before they could be a mod.

The ironic part is that exchange wasn't even about the one you removed.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To be clear, I'm not an admin, I'm a mod like the rest, I just talk to the Admins on the regular. :)

In general, if someone is just misinformed, I like to treat it as a teachable moment.

"That's incorrect, here's why, citation 1, 2, 3."

If you remove the comment, people won't see the counter argument. I had this in a recent thread in a MANY TIMES SMALLER community I moderate where someone was going off on the book "Gender Queer". Tons of reports, tons of downvotes.

Polite replies, cited sources, and eventually they gave up and deleted their comments themselves.

In here, unless a comment is blatantly hateful or batshit crazy, I'd leave it as well. But if someone is unironically going on about Jewish Space Lasers or Pizzagate, yeah, that kind of stuff is dangerous and will get removed.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 10 months ago

This is exactly why I dont like that lemmy makes votes visible. Makes powertripping and targeted harassment so much easier.