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how does the US even spy on China tbh
It's obvious they don't trust any of the Chinese Americans so do they just send in a bunch of blondes and go "ni hao wo jiao uhhh...albino. Ni jiao she me ming zu?"
That's why they can't spy on China anymore.
The golden rule of espionage is that your enemy is gonna spy on you as well. So it's incumbent on you to go on the offensive and spy even harder.
The kind of person who can spy on China or, say, the Soviet Union speaks the local language, and has economic and political ties with local assets. Both the spy and the assets are gonna play a double game if for no other reason than the fact that they can make more money that way.
The US played that game well all throught the Cold War. And it chose to lose the capability to do so after the Aldritch Ames Incident. The americans have gone on the defensive, and are more focused on ensuring the enemy can't spy on them at all. As a result the espionage officers can't be perfect for the job - hiring a well connected person is too much of a risk - and the espionage assets aren't hired in the first place. What CIA agents the US had abroad were legacy agents from a more daring time. And all those guys were purged when the Iranians found a security breach in the american intelligence networks, got the informants' names and sent the list to Russia and China.
I need to hear more about that part.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/15/botched-cia-communications-system-helped-blow-cover-chinese-agents-intelligence/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh_q02eefFM
@manuallybreathing@hexbear.net I don't have better sources on the repercussions of the aldritch ames incident on me, but while the youtube video talks about the CIA comms failure it does touch on the aldritch ames indicent at the start.
"But the CIA’s interim system contained a technical error: It connected back architecturally to the CIA’s main covert communications platform"
"U.S. intelligence officers were also able to identify digital links between the covert communications system and the U.S. government itself, according to one former official—links the Chinese agencies almost certainly found as well. These digital links would have made it relatively easy for China to deduce that the covert communications system was being used by the CIA."
How do they say... "we kill based on metadata". A taste of their own medicine.
That's absurd, it's like they were signing their instructions for their assets with the CIA watermark.
i've love to read more about this if you've got a link comrade
it was linked in a response above your comment
Holy shit even spying is hereditary in US XD
Seen those whiteboys videos "American guy surprises local restaurant owner in guanzhou with perfect mandarin"?
All feds
Bribing business men and corrupt politicians who are mad that the government keeps clamping down on corruption I would guess.