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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Can someone please tell me exactly what I'm supposed to be wearing?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Adopt actual sheep, and just strap them to your body for warmth.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So generally the entire clothes industry is slavery ridden and completely fucked. Trying to follow the supply chain is basically impossible.

I would suggest essentially as little as possible for as long as possible, plant fibres probs good. synthetic not really that bad given the whole state of everything it's small fries in terms of plastic waste.

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

Anyone who can afford that is not doing it to be sustainable and humanitarian and I think you know that.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wtf are you talking about? I'm not super rich, but i get some things done with a local tailor and one of the biggest reasons is to support local business and avoid overseas slave labour

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I look forward to Christmas every year so I can finally get new socks. You might not be super rich, but you're certainly not poor, either.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

You really don't know what choices someone is making. If you replace clothing about once a decade and don't own much it's not very expensive.

High up front sure but maybe someone is eating cheap bean and rice based food, maybe they don't buy alcohol, maybe they don't own a car, maybe they buy used stuff rather than new whatever. There are loads of ways for many people to squirrel away the funds to get an item made here and there. Yeah obvs if you're destitute it's impossible and right now with economies going to shit way more people are losing money each week but prior there were choices people could usually make.

Yes it involves giving up other things and it can be stressful and difficult but that's expected. Slavery makes things cheap in dollars and high in human misery.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That really is a 'where you live' thing. When I lived in SEA I could buy a button down shirt you could wear to work for about $5, going to a tailor and having one bespoke was $6 in cotton, or $15 in silk. Wool was actually more expensive since there was no domestic production.

[–] matjoeman@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does SEA mean Seattle or South East Asia?

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Sorry, southeast Asia

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Depends on where you live. In European cities it will be expensive to get new things tailored, but there will be shops only for changes and repairs, which will be cheaper, for example.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago

That really depends. If you buy a tshirt it was probably made paying someone like 5c a day.

If you find someone who makes clothing, just a normal arse person not someone catering to the rich, they can probably make a basic tshirt to your rough size in about 3 hours or so. If they're paid a reasonable fee that's going to be in my country for example 200 aud or so factoring in material. A sweat shop T would be 20 to 50, or even 80 in a high end store so it's really not much more expensive.

Wear it till it has holes in it so say 5 to 10 years and it's really not that expensive.

More complicated clothing gets more expensive but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don't need to buy it all at once. Sometimes you need more clothes than that, e.g. you're a woman and you work customer facing but most people have waaaaay more clothes than they need.

[–] 5200@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Nothing! Go forth and let it all be free and flap around!

[–] casmael@startrek.website 6 points 9 months ago

Based on the news today, human skin™️ apparently

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 3 points 9 months ago

Can't say anything about buying new clothes, but as the budget's tightened in my household I've been leaning how to mend my clothes. The ones I normally would've thrown away due to armpit/toe/crotch holes can be fixed somewhat easily.

One catch is that I use a sewing machine my MIL gave me - so there was some cost somewhere. But I see machines on craigslist going for sub 60 fairly often. The second catch is that I was lucky enough to develop an interest (and spend my free time) learning about how to mend clothes. If people lack free time/interest to learn how to do it, then they end up paying the new-clothes tax.

[–] VegaLyrae@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are mulesing free certificates, and some companies go the extra mile.

Varusteleka is pretty open about their wool, but they don't have the biggest selection.

(varusteleka, I've called you out twice on this account, sponsor me lmao)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you fucking kidding me?

Do you think most people can buy clothes for that kind of money? I sure as fuck can't afford a shirt that costs $64 or pants that cost $160.

You're basically telling me that in order to have cruelty-free wool, I have to be wealthy.

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 10 points 9 months ago

You’re basically telling me that in order to have cruelty-free wool, I have to be wealthy.

Congrats. You found out why there’s animal cruelty in the first place. People need cheaper things -> other things need to be sacrificed to make that happen.

[–] VegaLyrae@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

That is correct.

Ethics come at a premium. Ethics are a luxury good.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

As little as possible.

[–] bananaa@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Simplest answer: cotton. It’s cheap and good enough for most uses. High-grade cotton like Supima is extra comfortable and not much more expensive.