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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While the Wagner Group itself is not ideologically driven, various elements of Wagner have been linked to neo-Nazism and far-right extremism.

It's literally named for Hitler's favorite composer.

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is bad guy v bad guy.

Hopefully Ukraine capitalizes, there has already been additional movement n of Bakmuht supposedly. Tons of disinfo everywhere right now but pic should become clearer as time passes.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here’s a pic of the founder Dmitry Utkin whose call sign is Wagner. He can be seen with nazi eagle, swastika, SS Schutzstaffel. This isn’t just runic imagery. He chose that call sign and the name for his company because he is a fan of the 3rd reich. And it was Adolf Hitlers favorite composer. Not just actual nazis. But an actual nazi leader. Leading a war for conquest and nazi glory.

[–] rcw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Utkin hasn't been really relevant for Wagner in recent years and is definitely not leading it. While their involvement in Ukraine might be for glory, their usual interests are monetary, their control over various oil fields, lumber, and gold mines in Syria, CAR, Mali providing a steady sanction-proof revenue stream. They also further the Russian's state geopolitical interests while maintaining plausible deniability.

They are nationalistic, opportunistic whatever, but not "Leading a war for conquest and nazi glory.".

They do have neo-nazis/ultranationalists elements of course though, especially Rusish Group.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the man that haunts me