The admin of sh.itjust.works has been approached but as of yet has failed to reply to concerned Lemmy users. I’m glad Beehaw admins look out for us by cutting off instances that host communities like this.
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The world is in a horrific state right now. I am trying to escape from it too, and that's why I am glad we've defederated from communities where there are racist bigoted trolls. I appreciate the admins of Beehaw not allowing the spillover. If you don't care about that there are other instances like Lemmy.world that aren't defederated/don't have the same community policies as Beehaw.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
To clarify, I agree that Beehaw should defederate with instances full of racist bigoted trolls.
However, it's hard to argue that sh.itjust.works works is one of those instances from just this. This is one guy who likely slipped under the radar. I'm just saying that we should just wait a bit to see how the situation unfolds before grabbing pitchforks.
I'm just frustrated that not immediately jumping to an extreme response means I'm somehow complicit. And also somewhat frustrated that trying to distance myself from politics apparently means I'm acting privileged.
I'm just tired of being angry all the time, at this point...
It may seem like "jumping to an extreme response" but once you've had enough experience in online forums you can see the storm clouds forming from a mile away, and you know you're just better off with an immediate ban to nip it in the bud before it inevitably turns into a huge problem. People without experience see mods doing this and think they're too heavy-handed, but it's just basic internet etiquette to keep things friendly and clean.
I personally saw a few red flags, gave the admin the benefit of the doubt, but when the issue was raised enough to him, and he failed to ban the offenders, I knew exactly where it was heading and just packed up and left. The nicer places will move too eventually once they see enough of it.
This was posted before TheDude's response, so it wasn't clear whether this was something that had just slipped through the cracks or not.
However, I agree his response is concerning... Perhaps it's more due to inexperience than "malice", but it's still problematic...
It's concerning that he's not just acting on his own like a dictator and instead let the members of the instance decide?
ultimately it's his website ultimately and his users are free to decide. but if they decide to keep the community they can't really blame anyone but themselves for any subsequent defederations. particularly in a federated system, there are consequences to a laissez-faire approach--that approach has been tried time and time again with the same end result (a community of extremely unpleasant people who everyone else quarantines) and at this point many people are just not interested in federating with a community that might go down that route. that's basically what people are getting at here, imo.
Beehaw already defederated from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world due to bots/trolls/open signups (all related). This topic was simply an affirmation the admins did the correct thing now these same instances have extremist communities popping up. These moderation issues are part of the reason we defederated.
I believe it's been deleted now, either that or my instance just blocked it