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[–] Crimfresh@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a never ending sea of people like you who just make assumptions about others. You know fucking nothing about me and have already dismissed my position in favor of free speech because you're so incredibly biased and not open to conversation. It's not surprising that someone so opposed to any opinions contrary to their narrative is opposed to free speech.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know fucking nothing about me and have already dismissed my position in favor of free speech because you’re so incredibly biased and not open to conversation.

it is a bit wild to get indignant about me immediately writing you off as Yet Another Annoying, Probably White, Probably Cis-Het Man who doesn't understand why the minorities and transes are so uppity when you literally opened with "Opponents of free speech are far more dangerous than advocating for free speech." you do realize how that comes off on an instance with a ton of minorities and LGBTQ+ people who are currently having that freedom of speech used to advocate for things up to and including their systematic murder, correct?

[–] Crimfresh@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I oppose your reactionary, thoughtless response. You think that attempts to silence them is righteous. I think you're every bit as misled and confused as they are.

And fuck you for your assumptions about my race and gender as if they're at all relevant to the support of free speech.

You're just like those people you despise. You make ignorant assumptions, assume righteousness, and refuse to have open discussion. You're using the EXACT SAME in-group out-group dynamics that are toxic as fuck.

When you find yourself in opposition to the positions held by the ACLU, you're probably fucking wrong.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

okay so no, i guess you don't get how this comes off. i'm not even going to dignify your false equivalencies or appeals to the ACLU as if they are infallible or can't be criticized for some of the positions they take (however principled). i think it's telling that you're screaming about how insulting it is for making "assumptions" about you--yet you in no way deviate from how a person who my assumptions apply to would respond here. to put it another way: you're not beating the Yet Another Annoying, Probably White, Probably Cis-Het Man allegations, and this space isn't for you. go away.

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We are explicitly anti-free speech. In the context of this document on what we stand for, making a statement that "free speech is good" without addressing any of the issues we bring up isn't operating in good faith towards us, so you should not expect us to treat you similarly.