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Reactionaries and inconsistency are a match made in heaven (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Illegal immigrants actually pay into state and local taxes way more than legal citizens and green-card holders do.

And since they're here undocumented, they can't get anything in return for paying those taxes.

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I looked up the numbers a while back but this 2017 study says at least 50%, meaning the majority pay taxes.

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/

Also, note that only 59.9% of households pay taxes, which means legal status isn't that important in terms of whether people pay taxes or not. They also won't likely get any social security money either.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They pay more huh? That's some magical shit right there lol

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They pay more if you consider that they frequently pay SS with no payout for them.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How does it work btw? Do you come to your country's tax authority and say "hello, I'm here illegally, can I pay taxes" ?

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You file your taxes under a special SSN that begins with a 9 that is given to you by the IRS specifically for filing.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin#itin

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And you're not immediately arrested for, like, illegally working or potentially illegally crossing the border to begin with?

Or is it like taxing criminal activity, simply a loophole to make charging them easier?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a) different departments, tax department doesn't deal with immigration law

b) government likes money more than it likes fairness, as should be obvious looking at... yknow... [gestures generally]

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I see, thanks!

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Whenever they get a paycheck from a legitimate business, they're paying into those taxes.