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Tech legal expert Eric Goldman wrote that a victory for the plaintiff could be considered "a dangerous ruling for the spy cam industry and for Amazon," because "the court’s analysis could indicate that all surreptitious hook cameras are categorically illegal to sell." That could prevent completely legal uses of cameras designed to look like clothes hooks, Goldman wrote, such as hypothetical in-home surveillance uses.

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If someone is interested in legitimate home surveillance, they usually buy cameras that look like cameras, so people know there’s surveillance and don’t fuck around. Usually.

Amazon reps are morons for thinking they could claim innocence here.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There can be reasons why you might want more subtle cameras, but I struggle to think of legitimate reasons why one would want ones designed to only look hidden in closets and bathrooms.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hence the standalone “usually.” Also there’s subtle and there’s straight up hidden, and I struggle to find a legit reason for hidden ones unless you’re conducting some kind of sting operation.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly, probably why the lawsuit focused in on these types in particular.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not about being stupid, it's about not caring. Any punishment will be tiny compared to the profit made.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would apply to listing it in the first place, they’re still morons for thinking they could claim innocence about it in court.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Again, modern strategy for corporations in lawsuits is to delay, delay, delay. The purpose is to continue drawing things out as long as possible. They knew full well it would fail. But it's a delay.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cool story, they’re still morons who likely did think they would get away with it.

Honestly, I don’t know why some of you act like you’re the only ones who understand corporate legal strategy.

[–] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

https://youtu.be/PshDKbs69BM?si=H0Fc9Kq5XRq2-4Cr

Apparently that video evidence there is fake no one's ever thought to spray paint the camera - if you could tell it's a camera.

It's almost as if and heavy sarcasm here humans know how cameras work. 🤣🤣🤣

Can you find the TV trope of infiltrator or burglar sees camera and shoots it or spray paints over it.... 🤣