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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Ex smoker here, who is very against smoking as practice. I am also against the complete ban because it makes no sense whatsoever to be for the legalization of cannabis and other drugs but to also be for banning smoking. If I support one, I cannot support the other. I support drug legalization, so I can't support a smoking ban.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Even when you consider the differences in addiction/habit forming? Do you feel the same way about morphine and heroin and their derivatives, that we should either legalize all or nothing?

It might be useful for an inbetween period, first we legalize softdrugs and ban all extremely addictive stuff, then after a year or 5 we open all the gates.

I don't even know if I'm for a complete ban but it sounded refreshing to have a smoker free generation, is such a low quality drug as well..

[–] neptune@dmv.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Marijuana at least has medicinal use though, right? I mean, it's not 100% the same.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] neptune@dmv.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not for banning tobacco. But as you can see, these medicinal uses are not the same as those for Marijuana, and even if they were, I wouldn't be aghast if kids stole tobacco leaves from the hospital and rolled joints with the.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm also not for banning tobacco. Not sure how anyone would think I am from what I said, but apparently that's the interpretation.

[–] neptune@dmv.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We all understand that. The link you provided doesn't really show a wide amount of medicinal value. Some value, sure. A lot? No.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

So? I didn't claim it cured cancer, just that it had some use as opposed to no use. What do you people want?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

The article only talks about cigarettes and smoking, but doesn’t say whether that includes other uses of nicotine

Same with other drug legalization - I think we’re well past the point of knowing that intentionally inhaling burnt stuff is bad, no matter what it is. I can support legalizing cannabis while trying to ban smoking anything

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Also, is it just cigarettes or also cigars and pipe tobacco? I know people that, after the 'flavored cigarette' ban here, switched to flavored cigarillos or whatever. Just moved someone to a worse product.