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Techbros don't understand art and at the moment lemmy is full of techbros
If you think art and tech are separate things, then you understand neither.
What do you think video games are made on? Painting canvases?
~Sincerely, an artist that works in IT.
Umm when did I say 'artists don't understand the tech that they need'? OTOH say something about AI generated content and you have techbros coming out of woodworks to give their hot takes while they can't even draw a stick figure.
I'll cry about not being able to use a pencil over my fancy keyboard. I wonder how many traditional artists make their own brushes and pencils.
No matter how hard you try, downloading models from civitai and typing shit into stable diffusion doesn't make you an artist
You're right, what makes me an artist is being able to express myself through my chosen medium.
Stop labeling people something that has nothing to do with this. We aren't peddling some obscure crypto. I'm no bro. It's just so weird to me people on lemmy of all places are all fearful of AI... something I never thought I would see in my lifetime. It's fucking amazing.
These are not the same thing and you know it, despite your gaslighting.
People using technology to express themselves is not the same as asking a fully automated plagiarism device to create shit by copying other shit.
It never will be.
The human input is where we go from 'reproduction' to 'art', and is why photography counts as art despite just capturing real things, because a human is behind it. Sets what's on camera. Expression.
AI "Art" is not expression and never will be. It's just tracing with extra steps.
These complainers sound like people speaking for Japanese people when they scream cultural appropriation when a white woman wears a kimono her host mother in Japan gave her.
Stop speaking for us, we have absolutely no problem with AI, our art is not threatened.
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What a stupid take what does that even mean?
Exactly what it says. Techbros don't understand art.
Edgy, did you come up with that all by yourself?
I understand neither.
What now?
I'm so sorry to hear that
Its funny when a side only has fear mongering and elitism to its name, and then wonders why they dont get more people on their side
You keep using that word.
It doesn't mean what you think it means.
If anything you're an elite using expensive technology which has unethically consumed art to regurgitate it.
Pick up a pencil and put in the work instead of benefiting from work of exploited artists.
Dude my credit card's have been maxxed out for the last 3 paychecks and I live alone in a sardine can, but yeah, sure I'm an elite. And btw idiot, Elitist is the word to pull off elitism, not Elite, we dont call people who engage in racism races. I've not once brought up elites, being poor or low class does not stop one from being elitist. Fuckin go commission some artists if you care so much about them instead of harrassing AI Artists
This guy won't be buying anything you create so you can pay your bills so why bother even interacting with him.
A few things:
1: I've blocked them as their low quality takes so far weren't adding anything to my life, so at this point I am no longer interacting with them
2: No one is buying my art, I dont make it to sell, MAYBE I'll host a shop on Gaia for the online currency for people's chars once I've got my wardrobing set up more efficient, but I'm waiting for more ethically clear systems and the laws around AI to solidify before I'll engage on the monetary front... IF I engage on the monetary front.
3: Considering I make homes, yeah, theres a good chance some of these people will buy things I've created if they live in my region
I'm no tech bro, and so far us artists are the ones actually defending AI because, holy moly, it's just crazy to think people truly believe in Skynet and all this conspiracy theory stuff.
My dad is an artist as well and he loves AI generated images. I will be training one in my own styles myself. It will make my work so much easier.
AI has the possibility to be an amazing tool for artists, but people are already training it on other people's work to copy specific artists so that they and others don't have to pay for commissions. There was even one case of somebody sending a copy of a piece of concept art one of the artists for Genshin Impact was working on on a livestream through an AI tool and then attempting to threaten the artist on stream with copyright violations, claiming that they had created the concept art.