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Thank you very much. I am looking forward to finding out whether Bethesda have been irredeemable from the beginning or just have begun so lately lol.
New Vegas was made by Obsidian not Bethesda. But Bethesda used to make good Games until oblivion. I love to play The elder Scrolls 2 Daggerfall and TES 3 Morrowind.
Generally I agree but I played oblivion so much I melted my first disk lol
Yeah oblivion was good! What they mean?
My hypothesis is that everyone absolutely adores the first new TES game that they encounter after discovering video games. Whatever game that is, they frequently disparage the later ones for being too dumbed down and the earlier ones for being too obtuse and archaic.
There was a hilarious old Usenet post I saw of a Daggerfall fan complaining about how Morrowind was such a tiny world and so dumbed down and simple compared to glorious gigantic Daggerfall.
I recently purchased Skyrim, and I had a ton of fun; but I had began to realize a plethora of issues from game balancing to unimpressive story-telling that finally compelled me to quit. I spent a little less than 93 hours on it, which speaks great volume of how enjoyable the game can be, however.
Here you dropped this hammer after hitting the nail on the head
Interesting hypothesis. I dunno if i have a favorite myself. I love Skyrim for the map, and ease of use on a controller. I love oblivion for the build-your-own spell system, but not the spellcasting. Sadly morrowind was missed as i had the notorious xbox version
Then how is Fallout 4 made by Bethesda? And why did Obsidian make Outer Worlds?
I think Bethesda owns the IP for the Fallout franchise since 3. Sometimes companies just license out sequels to another development studio.
Obsidian has made many sequels to popular RPGs from other developers like KotOR 2 (Bioware made KotOR) and Neverwinter Nights 2 (Bioware made Neverwinter Nights).
Obsidian also makes games based on it's own original IP like Pillars of Eternity, Alpha Protocol, Tyranny, etc. It's a great studio with lots of fun games!
Black Isle was the original Fallout developer. Before they shuttered, some of the most influential devs formed Obsidian, and years later Bethesda eventually ended up with the rights to Fallout. Bethesda made Fallout 3, 4, and I think 76 too unless that was a different external studio, Obsidian was contracted to make New Vegas using Bethesda's game engine.