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What did you do to the poor thing? Looks like you've been stabbing it with a fork 24/7 for years. Toss it, and be (a lot) more careful with the next one - or skip nonstick entirely. They already have a finite lifetime when not abused, and if you manage to ruin the coat in one spot that's a hotspot for "scaling off" more.
Stainless steel can take a beating, though, go nuts.
Cast iron is non-stick and so much easier to clean
Cast iron is nice, I recommended stainless because I assume someone who treats pans like this would ruin cast iron too.
Cast iron is nearly impossible to "ruin", the idea that you can is nothing more than a huge circlejerk. Even a completely rust covered cast iron pan can likely be made basically good as new with a little effort.
Obviously restoring your pan every time you wanna use it isn't practical, so you still wanna take care of it, but actually permanently ruining it? Good luck.
I wasn't really referring to permanently mangling the iron. Taking care of seasoning is an extra thing, is all, and the seasoning can absolutely be ruined.
It depends. I ruined my Teflon, but my cast iron is great. Mostly I just hate plastic spatulas.
Unless of course you want to use a dishwasher. Even manually it really isn't 'so much easier to clean' and you have to spend time seasoning it.
Once you season cast iron you can clean it however you want. Even with soap. The oils you bake on there at such high heat causes polymerization.
You don't have to continue to season cast iron after cleaning it, unless you're cleaning it with a fucking angle grinder.
Putting a seasoned cast iron pan in the dishwasher isn’t a great idea, in my experience
Dishwashers can have some pretty high pressures involved, I wouldn't be surprised if it can literally chip the seasoning off.
I might be wrong, but I think if your "seasoning" is thick enough to chip off it means you did it wrong and failed to scrub away the excess food residue.
Afaik you can't put the non stick in the dishwasher either?
Been doing it for years with no apparent ill effects
I don't see why not? They won't rust in there like cast iron would
Not about rust, but the chemicals in the detergent can harm the coating iirc.
I have a cast iron pan that I've used for almost 10 years. I seasoned it when I got it. To clean it, I scrub it with steel wool, dry it off then rub a coat of oil on it. It still looks and works perfectly. Cast iron is extremely easy to clean and upkeep.
Yeh,
Scrubbing it with steel wool, drying it and then rubbing in oil doesn’t sound as easy as ‘put in dishwasher’. I couldn’t be doing with that, cooking for a family every day
I cook for a family of four every day and taking 3 minutes to clean my cast iron pan is the least time consuming part of it. You're being dramatic.
I’m not being dramatic- I just don’t see much benefit from the faff. And I’ve never actually found a well-seasoned cast iron pan that is as non-stick as a non-stick.
… hence the need for the wire wool, I guess.
Oh, my point wasn't that a cast iron pan is as non-stick as Teflon. I was simply talking about cast iron upkeep. I have a non stick pan and it's much better for certain things for sure. But I wash it by hand instead of putting it in the dishwasher.