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IBM, a major advertiser on X, has pulled its spending from the social media platform, whose employees are grappling with what to tell its other advertisers, according to internal messages.

To be clear: Musk endorsed a tweet which used a false antisemitic conspiracy theory to tell people why "Hitler was right"

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[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t think there will be much damage. It’s not as though this were some huge surprise. The only people left on X agree with him or don’t care enough to mildly adjust their habits. I saw that IBM “paused” their ads, but I’d bet a nickel they will resume them once this blows over. They know what Xitter is. All the corporations know and don’t care. This very article on the NYT website has a button to share it on Twitter.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Xitter is such an appropriate name

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially when Xi is pronounced as in Xi Jinping.

Hell even when pronounced as a Z like in xeno it works. Sounding somewhat similar to zit ad shit.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] mmagod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

i'm using it from now on

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

So true. I think in general human beings dont really care as long as it doesn't affect them personally.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true. Lots of are still there because lots are still there. You see they tried to move to Mastadon, but obviously were confused. They leave like three accounts on three different instances with a few posts about being confused or not getting on with Mastadon.

They aren't nazies, they just don't feel they can move.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"If 10 people are sitting at a table being civil to 1 nazi, there are 11 nazis at the table."

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, yes, the civil environment of social media

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They aren't being civil to the Nazi. They aren't conceding the table. They are furious at him for messing up the table.

[–] User_4272894@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This metaphor falls down when you realize the table is in a restaurant owned by a Nazi, and the table by the window makes the restaurant look really popular.

Refusing to concede the table is literally adding value to the Nazi owned table, and giving others cover to say "no we also hate Nazis; we're just here because that table looks cool" which furthers the problem.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are there because they were there before the Nazi bought the restaurant.

I want them to leave to, and come to Mastadon and Lemmy, but they don't see able to. I don't think of them as Nazies because of it. They argue with the Nazies. They are just ignorant and not IT literate enough to move. Though I think there is wide acceptance that it's getting more and more toxic there.

[–] User_4272894@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, shit, well as long as they got to the restaurant before the Nazi bought it, I guess there's no harm in continuing to support it. Especially if they don't have the technical knowledge to... Stop using a website?

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure you can say the are supporting it. They can't use the other restaurants and can't cook. There is probably a certain amount of denial they are dealing will full-on Nazies. Hard to see something when doing so means you have to act in a way very detrimental to your life.

[–] User_4272894@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a service like Twitter, where user numbers define value, using it is 100% supporting it. Again, the metaphor falls apart because suggesting they can't use other options suggests they might die, which is painfully untrue for the vast majority of Twitter users (literally no user in a developed country relies on Twitter for life/death information in a way other sources can't provide).

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

There are plenty who twitter is their livelihood. Apparently they just can't get the follower numbers on Mastadon (as well as struggle to use it). They are trapped. The magic invisible hand of the market is no substitute for regulation. You arguing consumer choice can solve this kind of problem and it clearly often can't.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's just a rubbish oneliner to make people think they're smart. It's the first time I stumble upon it, but its up there with "Live Laugh Love", "never say never" and "you only live once"...

[–] S_204@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, it's a really useful tool for identifying assholes and bigots.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd have a civilised discussion with everyone, especially irl, even if they'd killed my brother, and not reject them before a conversation just based on their beliefs or actions.. I may well reject them for not being able to discuss or argue, but dialogue is always the way to approach a dispute