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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8180477

Why this is significant: There is no currently known treatment to stop suicidal thoughts when they happen. Antidepressants take 4-6 weeks to start working, and they don't work for everyone. Therapy also takes time. Our best option for acutely suicidal people is to lock them up in a psychiatric facility until they are no longer a threat to themselves.

Intravenous ketamine offers a glimpse of hope. A single dose appears able to alleviate suicidal ideation immediately after administration and for up to a week afterwards.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A single dose of IV ketamine is generally quite expensive.

If the effects last a week, might not be worth it

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Note that this is simply because this study looked at differences for up to a week. Other studies suggest there is a more sustained effect, although it's not permanent. Antidepressants aren't permanent either. The argument is to get insurance to cover ketamine since it is a promising treatment for suicidal ideation (and some are starting to cover it).

[–] crystal@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean it's more reasonable to just die?

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, those are the options most Americans have. Either pay more than you can afford to fix it or let it kill you.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

Uh there are a lot of anti depressants out there. I pay $15/mo for mine. This is just misinfo and xenophobia.

[–] Ghostwurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About $300 per session. The ketamine itself is cheap, the doctor’s time is what you’re paying for.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was gonna say, I don't remember ket being that expensive through the, err, unregular channels. Then again I'm not in America this would just be free here.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do people do ketamine infusions where you are?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure what you mean with infusion, I assumed IV meant intra-venous, which, yeah some folks do that unfortunately, though now that I think about it I think it would mostly be done intra-muscular (in a muscle rather than a vein).