Hey OP, comunistm is great in paper because it doesn't take into consideration the human nature. Humans are corruptible, no matter who, and even the best of us would be corrupted when it comes to someone they love. This alone breaks the comunist stance because you can't have fairness when one human is responsable for managing/governing. Comunist would work if there was no hierarchy between humans, no one more powerful. Maybe if some aliens come or if some AI evolve enough to govern, but that's is not today's world

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey Commenter, it sounds like you only have a surface level understanding of Communism, i suggest you read some theory. Communism very much takes human greed into account, its kind of its whole point.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You are right I really don't, but not all theory translates well into reality. How would a country of milions manage all that without hierarchy? I'm not going against you I'm just trying to understand how would this work without a dictatorship and considering that humans are not trustworthy

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You seem to be at least a little bit interested, I suggest you watch some videos on youtube so you understand it better, the channel Second Thought would be a good place to start.

I'll try to answer your concerns below:

The current ideology of society is the ideology of its rulling class.

Human nature, if anything is much more about collaboration and collective effort than greed, that's how it has been for most of human history.

That is to say, we precisely see so much greed everywhere because we live in a system that heavily incentivizes individuality and greed. From the way we are taught to the media we consume, it's literally everywhere. We are heavily influenced to think and see things in this particular individualistic way.

A society that puts human needs and collective effort above profits have a different way of viewing and interacting with the world than the way we do in capitalist societies. Besides that, if your concern is people abusing power, there should be mechanisms in place to account for that.

My knowledge on this whole topic is not deep, but I guess something you could look up is democratic centralism to understand how hierarchy works in a marxist-leninist socialist state.

Also, my understanding is that marxist theory is only dogmatic in relation to it's method, as everything else about it adapts to the reality and the material conditions of the time and place it is to be put into practice.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Humans are corruptible, no matter who, and even the best of us would be corrupted when it comes to someone they love.

Agreed! That's why I think it would be better if the workers ran things, instead of a few corrupt CEOs.