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Why Was This 11-Year-Old Brownsville ISD Honor Student Put in Solitary For Three Days?
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this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2023
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Can someone please provide another source for this?
For the love of God.
I cannot find one and I already decided to delete my other comments about this when somebody decided to think that I asked that because of some weird reason I won't repeat after I even predicted it.
I cannot find this from any reputable news source
This should be front page news from ap and Reuters and npr and bbc. Even cable news should have picked this up by now. If it's true, it's really good copy.
I don't think it's true though.
It doesn't even matter if it's reputable. Just another source. Any other source. That doesn't cite this as it's sole source.
Edit: Please! Please. Another source! I'll be sad that this happened, but please! Another source!
Edit 2: You're not providing other sources! You're providing weird 3rd party arguments that this source is correct.
Why aren't the major news sources reporting this? It's terrible news and should be reported.
You were spamming comments claiming the source is not reputable and propaganda because you don't like other articles you saw on the website. Those claims are patently false. Now you're just straight up lying about your previous comments while still repeating the lie that this is not a reputable source, so allow me to repeat myself: There is nothing wrong with The Texas Observer.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-texas-observer/
Another source would help your argument.
It would make me sad that it happened, but why is there no other source?
My "argument" has never been anything beyond establishing the fact that The Texas Observer is a reputable source with a clean fact check record. I already provided evidence backing that up for you four separate times. You are not here in good faith, demonstrated by the fact that you're deleting all your comments and lying about what you said in an attempt to make yourself sound more reasonable, and now you’re just flat out sealioning.
Is asking for more evidence when a really small group is the only source for a really attention grabbing story actually sea lioning?
We're done here. Bark elsewhere sealion.
Any other source. Please. Ask yourself why there's not any other source.
Please.
Please. Ask yourself why a publication with an unblemished five year record would choose for this to be the combo breaker.
Please.
If you think this is true, shout it from the mountains.
It's incredibly attention grabbing and needs to be headlines tomorrow.
We are, we upvoted it. Your harping on about another source is just noise. Go away.
You seem incensed so why don't you take the lead?
Can you show me evidence of where you're shouting about this? Why should I believe your shouting is coming from a reputable source? I can't find a single other person making the requests for evidence that you've made in this thread, etc. Ad inf.
Because Brownsville is a city of less than 200k people? Do you know about the treatment center in Rochester, MN that was declared a public nuisance? Find me a new source please, I don't trust the Post Bulletin for vague unspecified reasons
Because it’s a story that just broke about a kid in a small town.
Give it some time to filter out more. In the meantime we have a credible source providing us with this, which already counts for everything.
Yes and your blatant misrepresentation of your own comments doesn't help your case either. Neither do all your self-deleted comments after being called out for your BS.
It's local news and like most local news isn't covered elsewhere.
They’re looking for someone to confirm their biases, not actually looking for the truth. It’s pretty clear by their responses that all they’ll accept is someone stating that they’re a far left org.
I pointed out that it’s an openly left-leaning news site, and they just completely ignored me. Possibly because I at the same time asked them to explain what exactly made it “propaganda,” and they’ve been avoiding doing that like the plague.
Please. I'll shut up and be horribly ashamed if you find me another source for this story.
Dude. Your behavior here is really weird. People are responding to your unhinged flailing and trying to explain why the one source we currently have appears to be reputable. They are giving you reasons to believe that this source is very likely to be telling the truth while you wait for confirmation from other sources. You appear to have gone from a possibility you’ve identified (the possibility that this article is all made up) and inflated the probability of that being true to crazytown levels.
You seem to see conspiracy in the lack of a second source. There is a much more mundane explanation for the lack of that source you desperately need: this story just broke today (Friday). It takes a reputable source more than an hour or two to do their own research and verification and write their own article. Give it time. Yes, verifying news through multiple sources is a good thing. Yes, when there is more published about this, we will be better equipped to judge the accuracy of this article. But you seem to think journalism happens automatically and instantly.
First you claimed it was a “tabloid,” then you said it was “propaganda.” You’ve ignored people pointing out it’s a reputable site and asking you to explain why you think it’s propaganda. Please explain, exactly, why you think this site is not reputable and is “propaganda.”
Funny how they've spent hours replying and arguing with everyone else in this thread but will not answer this simple question.
Sealions gotta sealion ya know.
Texas Observer isn't reputable? 🤔
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/texas-observer-media-bias
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-texas-observer/
"We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact-check record."
Please. Any other source.
Any one that doesn't cite this.
It's so sad to me that that the fact that this is not corroborated anywhere else is getting me down voted.
That’s not what’s getting you downvoted.
Please sealion elsewhere.
Please. Just another source.
Why are you ok with this being the only source.
I get the sea lioning accusation, but this is so far fetched and is only reported here and by places and people that cite this.
Local news typically only ever has one source, but again, there is no problem with this one. They are a known, reputable, accurate, sourced, fact checked, news organization.
You have yet to articulate your problem with them and as near as anyone else can tell, THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THEM.
Then please forward this to everyone you can.
You and I both agree that this is horrific.
If it's true, it should be national news shortly.
I'm sure it will be, but you need to brace yourself for other orgs referencing the Texas Observer. That part is already happening, and again, nothing wrong with TO as a source.
https://www.newsbreak.com/brownsville-tx/3215619163503-this-11-year-old-brownsville-isd-honor-student-was-put-in-solitary
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218422724
I think you got called out for all your attempts to discredit a very reputable source, and now you’re focusing on “only one source” as a way to save face and look like you had a legitimate point from the start, when you didn’t. Just take the L.
As others have pointed out to you repeatedly, the Texas Observer is a perfectly fine news source that has passed fact checking flawlessly for at least the last 5 years.
So stop spamming.
Please. Another source.
No more arguments about why you think this is a good source.
Another source.
Please. That's the answer.
It should be easy. This is a horrific story. It should be easy to find other sources.
As many others have pointed out, you're arguing in bad faith.
Everyone knows damn well that a local story in a local newspaper will not have another source until maybe a national source picks it up, and guess what, those national sources will look at the fact that the Texas Observer is a fully trustworthy source who did the legwork on this story, and they will link back to it.
It's a 100% true, horrific story.
Or do you not believe that cops would do this sort of thing repeatedly in several states. Here's a selection of past stories on teens, and young teens at that, put in solitary for way longer than should ever be allowed. Watch out for the 13-year-old who committed suicide because of it, that one is a rough read.
https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/too-young-shave-old-enough-solitary
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/06/22/louisiana-limits-solitary-confinement-for-youth
https://www.hrw.org/report/2012/10/10/growing-locked-down/youth-solitary-confinement-jails-and-prisons-across-united
Cops are fucking bastards. They love to power trip, and they love to put people in solitary.
None of those are this story.
Didn't read a single word I wrote, did you?
😭pLEasE! anOThER SOuRce!! 😭
The Texas Observer is a reputable site. It's one of the last surviving papers in Texas with actual investigative journalists.
What is wrong with you?
Let's see if any major outlets pick it up over the next day or two.
Really that's all I'm asking.
The fact that it's been several hours since the original post and nothing but the post comes up for "child solitary confinement" should be reasonably telling.
It’s not, and we all know it. You’re trying to find another way to discredit a source you’ve got a grudge against. First you called it a tabloid, then you insisted it was “propaganda,” and when no one agreed with you on either one, you settled on it’s not credible because it’s the only source. Just stop.
The author is on Mastodon, and I just sent her a message about this Lemmy post. So, I suppose we'll see.
I personally think you are wrong since the original source is reputable. BUT I too find it a bit odd no one else seems to have picked up on this sensational piece.
If nothing else, perhaps we can use your doubt to raise awareness of this story.
Well kbin doesn't federate downvotes, but having a peek at the Lemmy side was pretty satisfying. What a fucking disingenuous tantrum throughout this thread and repeated failure to acknowledge that this source you have impunged is rated quite highly by independent fact checkers.
Will you continue to delete and edit your comments, or stand by your words? I dunno, you're getting blocked now, which I recommend to everyone else also do.
Yeah it's definitely sus. I went looking for some other stories that were regional news where I live and found other regional news papers also picking things up. It is a bit odd nobody else had run this story; it's possibly an exclusive others are still trying to catch up on.