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Your right, perhaps we go punish the skeletons in North Korea next?
If North Korea starts a war, its people will bear the brunt. But that's a bad comparison - Hamas was elected.
Maybe tell that to the children (who are 2 out of every 5 murdered) who didn't even exist for this definitive election of yours. It's a fine comparison. It's been so long since either event that your blaming a currently suffering group for the mistakes of it's predecessors, and it rings just as gross and hollow. Why don't you tell me how women should dress so they don't get raped?
Idk man shit sucks sometimes, but the people of Palestine have agency, and the Gazans chose their government.
That's the best fucking joke I've heard in a long time. Gazans have zero control over their situation. Maybe it's telling that they elected Hamas, (almost 20 goddamn years ago when half their population wasn't even born yet, I might add) who they felt were the only option to get them out of apartheid.
Bombing the shit out of population is a great way to breed extremists, and it will continue to happen as long as the ethnic cleansing continues.
They had enough control to put Hamas in power and spend like two decades launching rockets at Israel
Did you read anything past the first sentence? I swear you guys are all illiterate.
Isreal famously never did anything to provoke those rockets. They definitely didn't spend the last 75 years systematically dispossessing Palestinians and subjecting them to extreme violence.
Facts don't serve their narrative well. That's why anti-intellectualism is so key to fascistic rhetoric.
I honestly can't tell if these people are racist, or just extremely misinformed and chirping about a topic that they have no education in.
I think a fair amount of it is people being surprised that reality doesn't match what they've been told. And that cognitive dissonance takes them time to work through. And it's much more comfortable to say that's not what war means, that's not what genocide means, that's not what ethnic cleansing means....
And of course they're surrounded in a media soup using obtuse language to give them the impression everything's fine.
I honestly expect most of these denial commenters don't have an investment either way in the conflict. They just have an idea of someone is right, and they put everything into that narrative scope. It takes time to build nuance.
I'm betting both.
Yeah sometimes when you start a war and lose, it sucks. Maybe the various Arab nations should have thought about that
Jesus Christ are you talking about 1948? You are actually talking out of your ass and have no idea what you're saying. Go read about the Nakba and come back.
1948 and all the other wars and intifadas started by Arabs intent on a genocidal pogrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantura_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
Just 2 examples of many, many Zionist genocidal massacres. Read a fucking book.
Even if you were somehow correct, you're basically arguing that Palestinian children today should pay for the crimes of nation-states 3 generations ago. Completely reprehensible.
Look dude I'm not saying the Israelis fart the smell of roses, but the wars were started by Arabs. Read a fucking book sometime.
Holy shit. literally just doing a "I know you are but what am I" for an hour. Hang it up SilentStorms, there's no reasoning with the terminal thickness of the meat on this guys head.
Yeah, I'm going to call it here. I did get him to say that the apartheid state is justified because of a war 75 years ago, so I'll take the win.
If anyone else is reading into the trenches of this comment thread, please please read about the Nakba and the systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestine that continues today before bringing your thoughts into this topic. The reality of it is far worse than you can imagine.
ApArThEiD
https://contendingmodernities.nd.edu/global-currents/israeli-apartheid-and-its-apologists/
If anyone's curious here's further reading with historical nuance that lays out the case of apartheid
If they spent just a fraction of their time reading a book about the region rather than screeching about the current conflict I think they’d be singing a different tune. I have found exactly one instance of Palestinian expulsion prior to the Arab nations declaration of war in 1948. The Deir Yassin massacre, which if you actually read the Wikipedia article on it, it provides evidence of the majority of Jews condemning the attack and even some helping the Palestinians. The person responsible for the attack even said he was told by his commanding officer that civilians were not to be harmed. All land acquisition prior to 1948 was legal. I can provide mounds and mounds of evidence proving it. You can condemn modern day Israel without parroting antisemitic lies.
Yep, exactly. And the Arab exodus from Israel was largely in collaboration with Arab military authorities, people trying to get out of the conflict zone so they could reoccupy after the victorious Arab armies drive the Israelis out.
lol they were lost by the arabs too. it's like they're incapable of long term memory
This also sounds... Racist. Why are you being racist/defending racists all of a sudden?