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[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So like, is the same position something like: I support Israel but condemn their atrocities while pursuing security and justice? I don't understand how so many people have a strong opinion on this situation. My opinion is that I'm not educated enough to have one...

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's closely linked to the Christian culture. I think in Revelation or something Israel was the good guys during Armageddon, and the US wants to always be aligned with them for that reason. Whatever Israel does is "the good guys". More nonsense from religion, yay.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except it's not even an educated Christian take. Israel rejected the Messiah and continue to. At no time does the Bible suggest the end-time Israel is acting according to God's will. They are experiencing a period of discipline outside of his will, just as they did in the OT. The Bible does teach God will ultimately redeem them but not before great suffering on their part, and it never suggests the nation is in anyway pleasing him before that.

Christians offering unqualified support to the Israeli government aren't representing what their own faith teaches.

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Xtians getting their own religion wrong? Color me shocked.

[–] abuttandahalf@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

No it's not. Israel serves the us and the west's geopolitical interests and that is why they support them. Whatever propagandistic justifications they put out for why people should support Israel are irrelevant.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CNN isn't even pro-religion though, and they've been very pro-Israel this entire time.

Yeah idk it seems to be some kind of liberal purity test these days. Many liberals respect the power of tradition, and religious ideology, even if they don't believe the text.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked the Corporate News Network is pro-Israel. Shocked

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I support Israel

If you support a white supremacist settler-colonialist state, it means you support a white supremacist settler-colonialist state.

End of story.

[–] Gargantu8@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what is the most rational opinion?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So what is the most rational opinion?

I'd say... not supporting a white supremacist settler-colonialist state.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

What if the strong opinion is that you shall not murder?

I’ve educated myself enough to be able to have a strong position on the killing of innocents.

Doesn’t matter if they are Israeli, Palestinian, Somali, Japanese or even Swedish - innocent civilians have a right to live without being bombed.

Does not matter who’s dropping the bombs or on who they are dropping them. It’s just never the right thing to do.