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[–] cephus@lemmy.world 269 points 10 months ago (17 children)

Would be funny if it was true...but you never pay for OS updates on Mac.

[–] smolyeet@lemmy.world 135 points 10 months ago (6 children)

lol i was about to say. Updates have been free since what , Lion? Lemmy is just hurr durr non Linux operating systems bad πŸ™„

[–] Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it was Lion and even before then it was something like $35 to upgrade which was less than the cost to upgrade Windows at the time.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Why pay Microsoft though?

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Baku@aussie.zone 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure snow leopard was the last version you could buy physical media for at the very least because that’s the last version I have physical media for lol

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

In my experience they are (comparatively) I absolutely hate using ipados and they messed up airdrop (because why support Bluetooth fileshare when you can have a proprietary protocol) between different versions of ipados with the latest update and now it doesn't work half the time...

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[–] anonono@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You pay it by buying new hardware.

My 2013 macbook pro with 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB SSD has been deprecated by apple so the latest OS it gets is Big Sur, it has now been barred from signing updates (since they require the latest XCode which I cannot get with Big Sur) so its only viable life is via Linux from now on.

I have had to buy a Mac Mini with 8 GB of RAM and a 250 GB SSD to be able to upload updates for my iOS apps.

I mean I can afford it, but yeah, we are paying for OS updates dude.

That's the reason they also updated their EULAs to set a minimum renting period of 24hs for providers like Amazon and MacStadium. They want you buying hardware, they don't want to leave any easy way out.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are still workarounds for getting new macOS on older not supported hardware (aka the OpenCore Legacy Patcher) which works very well, even with really old macs. But yes, of course, there are no official updates.

That’s not an Apple problem per se though, that’s an industry problem. Windows 11 isn’t officially supported on Devices older than 2018 and unofficially not older than like 2015-ish, if you want full functionality and a non-hacky install (because of TPM 2.0). Also, most Android phones have a notoriously short period getting updates (although that is getting better with some manufacturers promising and delivering way more than before).

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Windows 11 isn’t officially supported on Devices older than 2018 and unofficially not older than like 2015-ish

Having old computers not compatible with the latest OS is not a problem, just keep running Windows 10. Having an OS that no longer gets security updates is a huge problem.

Fortunately Apple goes out of their way to ensure their hardware doesn't survive that long anymore.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Windows 10 is also nearing end of life. In two years it’s over

[–] M137@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's the same with windows though, I can't get Windows 11 on my laptop.

Same with many things, it's just not feasible to support decade old hardware with new updates.

[–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You pay for linux with your time and sanity.

[–] tubaruco@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

except the time is spent learning something instead of waiting for the pc to update(or you can, of course, use one of the many common distros that require no time to understand, eg. linux mint, fedora, tuxedoOS etc)

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

It used to be the case yea, but my experience last 5 years or so has been that especially for old hardware everything works out of the box.

Might be extremely hardware or distro dependent though.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You can, but not officially.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I know we all get off on a little Apple hate from time to time, why do so many of these things feel they need to make shit up? There's so much real shit they do that you could just make fun of

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this comic might have been from the era when you did have to pay for new versions of OS X… they stopped doing that around Lion I think in 2011 or so.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They used to sell it? Criminals!

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The first few iOS updates they tried to charge for as well

I remember because it was laughably easy to just go grab the package file online and "flash" it manually.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Always better to sail the high seas

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Because Apple bad obviously, get on the bandwagon

[–] urhovaldeko@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (12 children)

There was a time when you had to pay for the next major version. I think it went free around mountain lion or so?

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And even then it was only $20. The last time it was over $99 was 16 years ago.

[–] urhovaldeko@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Indeed. Last two were twenty.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are you telling me I can get a cougar for free?

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Animal protective services entered the chat

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago

Go to the right bar and she'll buy your drinks.

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