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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That isnt what dictatorship of the proletariat means, it has a very specific meaning which is that the proletariat exercise dicatorial authority for a period of transition (the implications is that former monarchs, factory owners, and landowners are politically disenfranchised by the system until they've been proletarianized)

Regardless of your opinion of the USSR, that is the meaning of the term "dictatorship of the proletariat"

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/sep/x02.htm

[–] millie@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read the State and Revolution, I'm well aware of what the dictatorship of the proletariat is. Lenin endorses the use of state violence to coerce members of the proletariat who don't support his cause. I guess i can go dig out my copy and find a supporting quote or two if you really need it. I had a couple of Marxist professors who made sure we covered that and Das Kapital pretty extensively. It's been a minute, but I remember it standing out because of the sheer contrast between Lenin's perspective and Engels'.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

endorses the use of state violence to coerce members of the proletariat who don’t support his cause

And that is distinct from the concept of the proletariat being the only class in control, aka dictatorship of the proletariat. Perhaps lenin or the translator did not do a good enough job separating the ideas, but they are seperate ideas, dictatorship of the proletariat stretching back to way before Lenin.