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"Along with the very real and violent war on the ground – there is also a fierce information war. Like Tuesday’s explosion at the Gaza hospital which Hamas says killed hundreds of people.

Israel says it was a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket, which they deny. Hamas says it was an Israeli airstrike, which they deny.

But tonight Forensic Architecture, Earshot and the Ramallah based NGO Al Haq have shared new information with Channel 4 News they say casts doubt on some aspects of Israel’s account."

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas shoots rockets from near mosks, schools, hospitals etc. because they know that the proximity to civilians is going to deter Israel to a certain degree. Do you think they would knock first if Hamas had their military locations on the open desert? Ofcourse they wouldn't. The only reason they do so is to atleast try and minimize civilian casualties when doing airstrikes. I don't know why you keep talking as if Israel is intentionally targeting civilians when that's what they're explicitly trying to avoid from doing. It's Hamas whose intentionally targeting civilians. That's almost exclusively what they do. They fire constant barrages of unguided rockets into residential areas and they just attacked Israel targeting almost exclusively civilians including the 250 murdered at the music festival. 250 innocent, unarmed civilians shot to death like animals, yet you take issue with the fact that Israel dares to give them a warning to get the hell out first. The unlucky ones that unfortunelately get killed in these strikes is what Hamas would call "human shields". It's not an accident that they're there. Hamas not only doesn't care about Israeli civilians, they don't care about their own either.

Ofcourse the right thing to do would to not bomb civilians at all. That's what civilized people normally tend to avoid doing. There however are some groups of people that aren't so concerned about such things. Israel is not one of them. While there's a shit ton to critizice them for, focusing on the act of giving a warning before an airstrike is just nonsensical. Also, as I'm sure you already know, it's not like they just start with the roof knock. They use phones first.

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I assure you Israel is targeting civilians deliberately and if they aren't they're fucking terrible shots as they've killed thousands Palestinians over the last few weeks. Israel is a colonial apartheid state that is looking to seize territory and displace Palestinian people from their homes. They're following the same playbook as seen in places like their americas and Australia. Colonialism isn't civilised or nice it's just plain imperial aggression.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Israel could take all Palestinian land and kill every single Palestinian tomorrow if they wanted to. They've had this capacity for a long time yet they've decided not to use it. What do you think Hamas would do in their position?