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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And there you can see the reality of US policy. Biden can speak all the nice words about human dignity, the value of freedom, and the right of self determination, but they are all hollow sentiments. Your moral worth has nothing to do with what is in your heart. The only thing that matters is your behavior. Likewise, the only thing that states should be judged on is their behavior. As a US citizen, it is heartbreaking to again witness the depravity of my own nation. It’s made doubly difficult when we have to endure the endless parade of false moralizing from this administration, and the one before that, and the one before that, on and on and on.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The irony is that the situation is pretty much the opposite of this -- the US vetoed a symbolic, non-binding resolution for essentially messaging reasons (it didn't explicitly acknowledge Israel's right to self-defence), but when it comes to concrete action it's providing millions in humanitarian relief, and Biden is pressuring Netanyahu privately and publicly to pull back from a full invasion and allow a relief corridor.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it’s symbolic, what harm would it have done to vote yes?

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I obviously don't know, but I can imagine one possible reason is that it's to try to win favor with Israel.

Israel has a right wing government and those types tend not to like to be told what to do. So if you tell them to do something, they will be less likely to do it.

But if you privately convince them to do it, then they can pretend like they're the good guys and they came up with the idea.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. Surely the secret plan will work this time.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Biden is pressuring Netanyahu privately and publicly to pull back from a full invasion and allow a relief corridor.

Biden has been pretty clear on his administration's stance on this war, and it's not "let's not murder innocent Palestinians". Biden has been telling Netenyahu to chill out (from a full invasion to bombing the shit out of Palestinians), but didn't actually do anything. The US is still sending billions of dollars to Israel.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Israel has the right to defend itself' has become the new 14 words, hasn't it?

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Precisely. Being an ultra-nationalist ethno-supremacist is totally cool though as long as you're Israeli. Don't you know they "earned" the right to be racist xenophobic psycopaths.

Anybody who says otherwise is a antisemitic dog whistler who loves murdering babies and should be shunned from society....

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lol Biden only cares that Netanyahu doesn't go full genocide otherwise his own position will look bad which is already supporting Israel.

It only took the USA a day after Hamas's attack to send munitions with no issue, Biden knows exactly where he stands.

Furthermore, none of that aid is currently reaching Palestine anyway. Last I checked he was only able to convince Israel for 20 trucks of aid, no fuel, and one time entry from Egypt.

At best he probably got him to delay or reduce some of the planned ground attack so that it won't be a complete immediate massacre, and more like a month long killing spree.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

States don't have morals, they have interests. The US has an interest in justifying the 20 year imperialist war they waged.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Actions speak louder than words in a nutshell...

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago