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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem is a lot of people don't differentiate between the israeli government and the israeli people as a whole - i've seen some straight up 'they had it coming' style bullshit that is verrry careful to place Good Jews and Bad Jews (the festival goers) to try and get a pass on antisemitsm and maaaan it is transparent as fuck.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

But that's how politics work nowadays. You need to assume that every group is homogenous and when someone from that group points out that it isn't, you call them a hypocrite.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No child is to blame about any of this. And when I think about this (i'm sorry) very stupid conflict, all I can think is people killing children because of land. FUCKING DIRT. Not a specific people, just people, humans, killing children becuase a piece o land, that to be fair it fits everyone! That is of a stupidity that I can not fathom

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's really just about how the land is called and who makes the rules. There are Israelis living in Palestine and Palestinians are citizens of Israel already.

[–] x86x87@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago
[–] x86x87@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? I know Jewish people that openly condemn the behavior of their gov. A person is good or bad depending on their actions - you cannot lump everyone together based on whatever characteristics you want and after that starting a genocide campaign.

The festival goes were just normal people like you and me that were trying to live and enjoy life. Same with the innocent people that are dying in Gaza.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about commentary i've seen. People very careful to say 'i'm not an antisemite buuuuuuut'

Yeah. Sure.

[–] x86x87@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah no. These two should be disconnected.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dude if you go "I'm not an antisemite but those festival goers absolutely had it coming" then you are at the very least an utter cunt.

[–] x86x87@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't saying that. Was saying that being antisemite and condemning Israel's actions are two different things.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and I was pointing out that some people are using this as an opportunity to be antisemitic. Calling israel out on its bullshit is one thing, but we're legit seeing people saying the victims of the attack had it coming for being israelis having a festival relatively near gaza.

[–] x86x87@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming is dumb af imho