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People in gaza elected Hamas themselves. You are either with or against terrorism. There's no in between.
First, only the sith (and the ignorant) deal in absolutes. Second, it's fair and right to feel for the people attacked by the Hamas, and fair and right to acknowledge the apartheid state of Israel that created them.
Literally created them: https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Palestine doesn't have elections thanks to Hamas.
Living in a concentration camp for decades fucks with people and their moral compass.
Palestinians don't necessarily support Hamas but support the greater cause of Palestinian sovereignty and human rights. Maybe they want to live like Human Beings instead of being treated like subhumans.
And to add to it, Israel regularly does unimaginable vile things to Palestinians. It will only make Palestinians resent Israel more and more.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
This is the ugly side of that. Hamas are a vile organisation full of hateful antisemites. They're also the inevitable result of every decision Isreal has made in Palestine. When people are being violently oppressed every day of their lives, that fosters hatred. When people have nothing left to lose, that fosters violence. When people have been abused for generations, they inevitably want revenge.
It's a disgusting double standard to forgive Israel's crimes, but demand that the Palestinians be perfect little angels who never feel any resentment or anger in their hearts.
In the end, it's not about who has done right or wrong, it's about who holds the power, and that has always been Isreal. So it is Isreal who bears the moral responsibility to end this conflict peacefully (and the western world supporting Isreal bears an equal responsibility to use our power to make that peace the most appealing option).
What is a peaceful solution to that?
That's not a question that I'm qualified to answer. But there are very smart people who can, if only they were allowed to bend themselves to the work of solving this problem. It would be very difficult, it would take a lot of hard work and the solution wouldn't perfectly satisfy everyone, but it could be done. And for that to happen the people with power have to want to put in that hard work and set those very smart people loose on the problem.
Even if the only solutions are imperfect, they will still be better than what is happening there right now. There is no possible universe where this is the least bad answer possible.
That election was 17 years ago. Most people living in Gaza right now weren't old enough back then to be allowed to vote.
I mean Hamas was the best option available. It just so happens to be the only group left fighting and resisting. Israel admitted that it did this on purpose; fought off all the other progressive groups but propped up Hamas.
You're an idiot.
Which cultural group do you want to be lumped into for genocide? I guarantee there's one that wants your race, whatever it is, exterminated. Hopefully for your sake they're not in power at the moment.
Did Hamas win 100% of the vote? No. But you're ok with the destruction of an entire culture because of frustrating choices made by some people made in the context of generations of oppression? Sounds like racism to me.