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Israeli airstrikes destroyed a tower block in Gaza City after Hamas militants launched a rocket and air attack on Israel in the early hours of Saturday morning.

The Israeli army launched Operation Iron Swords against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, with Israel's president, Benjamin Netanyahu, saying the country, is 'at war'.

Al Jazeera journalist Youmna El Sayed was reporting live from Gaza the moment the missile struck Palestine Tower behind her.

Sources in Gaza said at least 198 Palestinians were killed in the strikes

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[–] HerzogVonWiesel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Palestine strikes Israel: 22 dead (huge outcry) Israel strikes Palestine: 200 dead (nobody bats an eye)

Israel is a problematic subject with how imbalanced it is handled in media, resembling more propaganda than anything else.

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So you think Israel should just accept that a genocidal terrorist organisation attacks its civilian population? Yes, Hamas uses civilians as meat shields but what are the Israelis supposed to do? Let themselves be slaughtered?

Jesus fucking Christ. Terrorist supporters all around here. I'm genuinely disgusted.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Quick question: why does the innocent victim state have (until today) roughly 20x the casualties of the genocidal terrorist organization?

Even with the updated estimates (as I type this comment, 232 Palestinians dead since the attack and 250 Israelis dead), Israel has killed over 10x the amount of people.

So like... how's that work?

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Can't label either side as innocent in this conflict.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the same Israel with their elite mossad forces, yes? "Meat shields" are a poor excuse for indiscriminately bombing a city block when you have elite spec ops units. They don't do it because they have no other choice, they do it as a threatening show of force. "Fuck with us and we'll kill anyone even near you".

There's a middle ground that doesn't involve slaughtering innocents.

[–] Huntersli@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any chance you can school me in the rights and wrongs of this situation, I have tried to read up on the situation between Israel and Palestine and I just can't work out who, if anyone is at fault. It just seems like a crazy unresolvable mess.

On the face of it I would just think the solution is to let the Palestinians have their bit of land and be done with it, why is it not that simple?

Also it's really hard to understand who is justified in their actions. I often find myself feeling sorry for the Palestinians but then I see them riding through London celebration the murder of innocent people and it makes it really hard for me to feel sorry for them. Similarly with Israelis, it's horrible that they have innocent civilians murdered but killing 250 in response is just crazy...

I'm not trolling or shit posting I honestly can't work it out.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I appreciate your thoughtful response. Unfortunately it is an incredibly murky mess at this point. Say you side with Palestine and say it's their land. Do you then kick out the people who were born on the land after the conflict started? Innocent people who's only crime is the location of their birth? Or do you side with Israel and claim it's their land now and do the same to Palestinians? Where do you put the people you relocate?

I won't pretend to have an answer to that. Just pointing out that either answer has numerous problems which is part of why no solution has been reached yet. Few, if any, solution will be a "win-win". Someone will have to concede, and neither side seems willing to right now.

That said, indiscriminate violence from either side is abhorible. I detest the death of any innocent civilian in all of this. "Two wrongs don't make a right" and all that. Both sides have committed crimes and those responsible should all be held accountable for turning the area into a warzone.