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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 198 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It has everything to do with it because god said so:

"They basically told me that I should be ashamed of myself," Timonet told a local news outlet. "That I wasn't basically following God's ideals, which made me cry even more." "I felt like my life was over."

Guys, it’s the same rules as any underaged closet atheist. Study your ass off, become financially independent, then twerk in front of your god fearing scholarship committee

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Christianity is cancer. My religion supports your right to twerk.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am interested in your religion

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Satanism is only necessary because religion is cancer though. Just like cancer, we need to use another thing that kills to kill it. I'm 100% in agreement with Satanism's tenants, but it's because they're just humanist ideals wrapped in the garb of religion to use religion as a tool.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All religions are tools. Saying "religion is cancer" overlooks all of the good things that people get out of religion, such as a community with shared values that helps each other. If you can have a religion without superstition and dogma, where's the harm? It's not religion that's cancer. It's superstition and dogma.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but the term religion implies superstition and dogma. It's literally part of the definition. What is religion without that? Community and tax exempt status? The former is just called community (which also implies shared values) and the latter is mostly a scam.

I'm not saying good things can't come from religion, but they don't come because they are religious. Any good they do is done regardless (or often despite) the supernatural beliefs.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but the term religion implies superstition and dogma. It's literally part of the definition.

Definitions have to comport with reality, not the other way around. Satanism is not a social club. We have holidays, we have rituals, we have ministers who conduct wedding ceremonies. We even have church services.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to let you know I'm not the one downvoting you. I disagree, but I'm not downvoting.

Personally, I don't think The Satanic Temple should be considered a religion. I think the term has been watered down, particularly in the US, because our laws are stupid. As long as there is an incentive to be called a religion it should be, but there shouldn't be an incentive. Why should anyone's beliefs be valued more because they're tied to (usually at least) supernatural beliefs?

TST was created as religious satire. That's the reason for the holidays, riguals, and other services. They need to conform to the appearance of a religion to work as a religion for their own purposes. That isn't to say these are bad or wrong. They're just as valid as any other religion. It's just that the belief that it's founded on is humanism, not something supernatural.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why should anyone's beliefs be valued more because they're tied to (usually at least) supernatural beliefs?

TST agrees with you. In fact, this is almost word-for-word what it says in the FAQ under the question "If you don't believe in the supernatural, how is TST a religion?"

TST was created as religious satire. That's the reason for the holidays, riguals, and other services.

What convinced you of this?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

No, I agree with that. It's religious satire. That's why I included the parenthesis.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago
[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean if you’re going to be that pedantic about a comment that doesn’t strike me as intending to be nuanced and specific, there are versions of Christianity that are fine with twerking too

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People say "religion" when they mean "Christianity". This A) isn't fair to other religions and B) helps to enforce Christian hegemony.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People also say “Christianity” when they mean “evangelicalism.”

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago
[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Sounds like someone dodged a bullet! Bullet-dodge ass-dance!

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oh that really pisses me off. The poor girl!