this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2023
115 points (99.1% liked)
Europe
8484 readers
1 users here now
News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe πͺπΊ
(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, π©πͺ ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures
Rules
(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)
- Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
- No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
- No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.
Also check out !yurop@lemm.ee
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Immigrants have the same possibilities as everyone else in Sweden.
So if it's not their willingness to integrate, what is it then?
My god. I live in the country I was born in and even I can see that the odds are not stacked equally for immigrants. Sorry, but itβs hard to take your comment in good faith, hence the downvote.
Do you live in Sweden? Or how do you know that?
I already explained why the possibilities are not the same. Are you going to address that directly, or just assume I don't remember what I said?
You said:
What does that even mean, give us an example is what I'm saying.
Do you want me to explain what socio-economic status means? Because I already explained the access part. I also explained, elsewhere in this thread, that it doesn't simply mean money.
But long story short: It's what long-term unemployed don't have. At least not in current European societies.
There are long term unemployment amongst all groups in Sweden and systems in place to fix it. Why do immigrants stand out?
Because they're not as adept at having their criminality blend in than more native Swedes.
Blend in? Wth are you talking about? And you started this with som socio-economic ramblings. I really don't think you know as much as you think you do.
It's hard to even know what to say to this.. Everything you've been saying has been pretty disingenuous, I think it's called virtue signalling.
Lol, Ok thats funny. And what virtue would that be?
It's equal opportunity bro, everyone has exactly the same opportunities, foreigners are treated just as well as Swedes, the only reason they're not succeeding is because they're lazy immigrants ofc.. So fucking whack.
Well shit man, you said it, but I never did. Seems you've good some defined conception, though, so feel free to share.
Or don't I couldn't give a fuck really
Yup
I was more referring to how you said immigrants are lazy.
It's implied by what you say and the attitude towards them.
No it's not, and here is an opportunity for you to learn something new: just because you might feel something is implied, or if you think someone holds a certain opinion doesn't make it so. Don't assume, just ask if you need to.
So then what exactly were you saying? Because whatever you were saying, I as a foreigner in Sweden, definitely don't have the same perspective as you. Whatever rose tinted glasses you're looking at the Swedish system through doesn't seem to reflect the reality of many foreigners, most especially refugees. But it's easy to just say "everyone has the same opportunities here".
Vad Γ€r det som jag har som inte du har menar du?