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communism good; capitalism bad; is that iffy?
None of us have any issue with communists
Color me skeptical.
Thinking communism is a good system and sucking of dictators is a bit of a difference isn't it lol.
I literally today saw a post celebrating and congratulating Xi for being a leader for so long, you know, while forcing that no one else could take power.
Also associating communism with authoritarianism is very saying.
I can see I was right to be skeptical. "I love communism; just not in any of the ways that it has ever historically or presently succeeded."
Communism has never been implemented. We had "really existing socialism" which then drifted off into state-capitalist tyranny, capitalist tyranny, or straight tyranny. Cuba and Vietnam fare better, they're drifting towards democratic socialism.
No, i don't consider it succeeding if there's a dictator in power. Is that a hot take? Again, I'm fairly anti-capitalist too. I am also anti-authoritarian, and thus also against dictators. Hence i do not consider Xi's CCP
Successful.
Edit: what barsoap said is also true. China utilizes a capitalist system as economy. Do you really think those factory workers own their factory themselves? If so, how are there so many Chinese billionaires? Billionaires shouldn't exist in a communist society.
MLs be like "the state will wither away bro, I swear it will work this time" and then create an authoritarian nightmare society again.
Although at least you're not getting anywhere with your stupid military fetishism, because you cannot topple an existing power through force of arms unless the state military is in tatters, and with the threat of nuclear war preventing any kind of large-scale engagement between major powers, good luck waiting for an opportunity.
The only way to topple a major developed government now is through the Union of Unions, striking with enough of the population to break the economy in half, and bring the establishment to the bargaining table with two options: give us what we want, worker democracy, or we take away your access to food, water and power. And if that worked, and then you authoritarian fuckers tried to pull your usual shit on us in the aftermath, we'd just strike again until it was your turn to choose between worker democracy or dying of thirst with no food and no power to make your demise any more comfortable.
Go and start, or join, a fucking union, and try to make things marginally better for your fellow workers, instead of doing nothing but sucking Stalin's necrotised dick over the internet.
I just need you to know this made me let out the loudest damned snort. Perfect description, 10/10 no notes.
And your modlog determined, that was a lie
We have issues w/ tankies, we're fine with communists
...What's the difference? "Tankie" is just meaningless lib perjorative anymore, and it's impossible for you to not know and observe that.
A Tankie is anyone who's an apologist for the Chinese, soviet, North Korean, or other more minor fascist/opressive States. The are the Communists who yearn to lick the boot of Big brother, rather than truly empower the people
Those states were state capitalism under authoritarianism. But I think a small portion of people on these communist actually support what has been done under these regimes but rather want to support communism where some chance had been given (by Lenin at early years for example)
Hold on a minute, are you saying that the capitalists in China, Russia, and N. Korea institutionalized ultranationalist, petit‐bourgeois movements to reinforce capital and maintain their levels of profits? Can you show me when this happened?
...So, every actually existing socialist project, you think are genocidal despots. That's what I mean when I say 'you glow'. You are the feds, you are 5-0, you are twelve, you are a pig, you are a WHOLE cracker, hold the saltine.
Okay I'm banning you now