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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wonderful words written not about the real world.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you think torture is fun? Because it's not useful for gaining information. The only reason to do it is to make yourself feel better. Are you that sort of person? Gotta get your enemies into a position they can't defend themselves then you'll take your time causing pain? Your real world isn't worth preservation of you won't work towards a better one.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. I just think some people deserve some of the pain they've inflicted on others. I believe some people are so evil they do not deserve sympathy.

I am both sorry and glad you have not seen enough of the real world to agree. Though you should probably open your eyes before it's too late.

The answer to the Paradox of Tolerance IS NOT absolute tolerance.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Saying "lock him away for ever, even kill him, but don't torture" isn't falling for the paradox of tolerance. It's saying that if we're willing to be just as evil then what's the point of fighting them? There has to be something that makes us different. And for me it's saying yes, stop crime, even kill if we have to. But torture doesn't reduce crime. Torture doesn't gain trustworthy intelligence information. There is no point in torture other than to take delight in pain. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong and anyone who agrees and desires to torture anyway is a monster.

I'm sorry that whatever you've seen of the world, you weren't strong enough to keep your humanity and kindness through it, and now would rather perpetuate pain than end it.