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Nebraska US mother sentenced to two years in prison for giving daughter abortion pills
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2023
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Seems like a good trade off. 2 years in prison < 18 years in prison. Anyway, fuck Nebraska.
Let's not forget that this is because Meta gave away Facebook messages that they thought were private. Do not use Facebook messenger! Or SMS!!
Jeez, that should be the headline.
"Facebook exposes messages that land a mom in prison for giving her daughter abortion pills."
Never trust Facebook, get a real E2E messenger app like signal
E2E is not enough. You can still be subpoenaed for Signal messages if they aren't auto-deleted. Just ask all the folks involved in the trump indictments.
PGP anything that's confidential.
"Facebook exposes messages that land a mom in prison for giving her daughter health care treatment."
Pregnancy is a medical condition with possibly lethal health risks and abortion is a treatment for those that don't accept those risks.
Abortion is health care.
Eh. I don't see why we need to use vague terms when we could use specific ones.
Because people need to think of abortions access as health care. The same as cancer treatment, diagnosing illness, or getting stitches. And that starts with messaging.
Abortion is health care.
That's fine, but it seems disingenuous to use the general term 'health care' when you could be more specific with what that health care actually is.
I don't think it's disingenuous at all. It's treatment for a woman's health. Calling out people for disapproving of health care is half the point.
Abortion is health care.
I mean, you literally said to call it by a general term to get people to think a certain way about it.
I feel like we should tell them the specific information and let them make their own decision instead of resorting to sly tricks like this.
It's not a trick. It's health care. People should think of it as health care because it is.
Abortion is health care.
Alright. I don't think you're going to see my point so I'll just duck out.
Have a nice day.
Killing a 6 month premie isn't abortion though. That fetus' bodily autonomy was violated.
Agreed that abortion is Healthcare. There's also a tipping point where it's no longer a cluster of cells, right?
First off, when you say "isn't abortion" it kinda sounds like you're talking about mythical post-birth murder, which doesn't happen and would be illegal. Not sure if you're talking about that or not, but I thought I'd preface.
Aside from that, when it's "viable" it's usually just induced labor. If it's not induced, there's a reason why they have to take more extreme measures.
Aside from that, if you give an inch they take a mile. I would rather doctors and their patient be able to do what's best for the patient's health than to let the government interfere.
They own WhatsApp too
Does anyone have an article that describes point by point why Facebook is harmful? I'm having trouble getting my friends to switch to signal.