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This should really be the norm.
Tip culture was developed so the restaurant owner didn’t have to pay (mostly black) waiters as much.
This, so much this. The average American dies on the hill of defending institutions that were literally created for no reason other than to fuck black people over and i'm so sick of it.
In some countries, it is!
Unfortunately most wait staff do not want to work for just hourly, it's been tried a lot and almost always places have major issues with getting waiters. The majority of them like the tipping system.
Sounds to me like either ignorance or Stockholm syndrome.
Or Mario just lying 🤷
It's absolutely lying, or at best guessing based on intuition. Eliminating the tipped minimum wage has strong support and demonstrable benefits.
https://onefairwage.site/
What's your experience with this? Because I was a server that organized to eliminate the tipped minimum wage in Pennsylvania and we got plenty of support. Servers liked the fact that their income was predictable rather than being tied to business volume, managers liked that they could put one strong server or bartender on a medium-paced shift without that employee feeling like they were being punished by not being given the busiest (and therefore most profitable) shifts, everyone liked that their income was no longer tied to the whims of racist misogynists who had been drinking, there was no more pressure to work off the clock and for most servers it resulted in a raise and a lower overall workload.
https://www.businessinsider.com/danny-meyers-no-tip-policy-struggles-2017-10?_gl=11n4vs2l_ga*SjlNVHNZR25mOVlXZ0x3NDhjT2VmM2MwRkZGQmNiaUppRktNTXl6YmREVnF6Uzd2b0tYQ3lNSmxoTEx6X05IbA..
Like it or not most tipped servers make more with tips. I don't know why this is some odd thing. There are plenty of stories out there like the one I posted. Almost all tipped servers make more with tips.
In the EU we like to pay a living wage and tip. That way we know that no one is getting fucked (any more than usual) and the good service staff are getting rewarded for going above and beyond.