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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be okay with him going into exile in North Korea.

yeah. let him torture Kim for a while.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The realistic conclusion to that would be Trump spilling Top Secret info to North Korea. If not willingly, then via torture. But let’s be honest: It would probably be willingly.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, I don't think he has the awareness or attention span to be an accurate mole if he's limited to working from memory.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol absolutely. Can you imagine Trump trying to recite government intel from memory?

"So the document said bigly assets were all all over the country. My uncle, college professor in the nuclear


Hillary! Can you believe that, folks? Hillary. Johnathan Trump, went to MIT did the thing, this and that. Tremendous, it was tremendous this government secrets I am telling you now."

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

And as he's saying it, his voice just keeps getting softer, like he's telling you a bedtime story.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Real question. What information could he provide that would be of real value? Inside policy but I suspect if the policy makers knew he was spilling the beans, they would adjust as needed.

Technical information? I doubt he barely knows how to use a smart phone much less give details on a f35.

I would be curious what the intelligence community would consider high risk if a past president flipped.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’d probably remember half the secrets incorrectly and get North Korea to blow itself up.

The best ending.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

He’s such a narcissist all they would have to do is stroke his ego

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This actually highlights one of the problems (as a strategy, ignoring humanitarian concerns) with torture- whether or not someone will break has nothing to do with whether they have real, useful information. Once they break, they will say whatever they think their captors want to hear.

The primary (strategic) alternative is to befriend them; convince them you're on their side. A tactic that has been shown to be extremely effective on Trump. He'll gladly spill whatever he thinks he knows as soon as they say something nice about him.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point. We should maybe abduct both of them, and turn it into a reality tv show. Like The Truman Show. but real.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, he would absolutely thrive on something like that; anything less than consignment to the dustbin of obscurity is too good for him.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He absolutely wouldn’t thrive on being forgotten by everyone except his jailers.

He feeds off the attention.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I missing something? You suggested he and Kim should be documented 24/7 à la The Truman Show

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well. maybe not... 24...7... nobody wants to see, uh, most... of that...

[–] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Guantanamo would be more appropriate.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably. But, like. just hear me out. They'd hate each other's guts. It'd be like Grumpy Old Men, except they're not fighting over a woman, and they were never actually friends.