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[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Sort of the same for multiculturalism. Only cultures that accept multiple cultures should be part of a multicultural society.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, every culture has rightwing extremists that want to exploit that.

I'm not aware of a single one that's all rightwing extremists, and any large enough is going to have some.

[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So? Then you leave those rightwing extremists that every culture has out of the multicultural society you want to live in.

This isn't rocket science. Every culture branches out into different subcultures, and some of those branches even fight against other branches. The solution includes not treating all of the branches the same way, which would already be pretty insulting in and of itself to them.

Huh, sudden downvote after making this reply. Pretty revealing about the discussion, if any, that some people want to have. Shame most people outside of kbin.social were fooled into believing that keeping the source of the downvotes hidden is more valuable than showing it. It would be pretty revealing as well as transparent and could certainly hint about how some people really want to shape it, instead of leaving it as data only the admins can collect and process.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, it's because you're replying to a week old comment thread and then made multiple edits bitching about it I'm just going to block and forget you exist

[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thanks for confirming the degree of your character and how transient your attention span and ideological viewpoints are.

Thanks for the block as well, when I do it from my side it doesn't prevent those I block from still reading my comments or creating subthreads to it, making it almost a necessary evil of last resort.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes. And “accepting” doesn’t mean love bombing for purposes of conversion, like evangelism/da’wah (only to reveal the nasty tenets after initiation into the group). And acceptance with the fundamental belief that women are subservient to men in some fucked up sense of divine order is not acceptance. If someone wants to call this an Islamophobic dog whistle, they need to get their hearing fixed.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think this is a very bad idea and leads to bad places.

The culture in China is extremely insular and the Chinese state is very focused on homogenising the country into a single culture.

Should Chinese people be not allowed to move out of China?

I think discriminating on immigration based on ethnicity is an appalling idea, even if it means that sometimes a person from a bad country immigrates to where I live.

[–] InternetTubes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's a good point, many countries have their own insular China towns as a result and their presence in those societies is very one sided. You even have China setting up extralegal police stations overseas, which shows the lack of respect it is fostering. I think discriminating immigration policiy based on ethnicities that would discriminate against you is quite reasonable, but that doesn't mean someone from a bad country shouldn't be allowed to immigrate to where you live, but that you have to make their ability to accept multiple cultures as the deciding factor, specially if you know they are coming from a society specially against it.

Ask Mongolia, Hong Kong, Tiber, or Taiwan how much they like you white knighting their homogenizing the country (and even that which really isn't) into a single culture.