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[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

noo but as long as they agree with MY views they are fine (my views are objectively correct) /s

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what happens when someone has views that objectively do threaten everyone else? Do we sacrifice the safety of all just to not be hypocrites? Because I'd personally rather be a hypocrite than a genocide victim

[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ideas don't threaten anyone. Actions do.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ohh, yes they do. Ideas dictate your actions, to start. And even someone holding negative ideas toward you in and of itself is an inherent threat to your existence in a lot of ways. I have lived most of my life that way, because of racism, and the fact that people inwardly hated me for what I am affected my ability to be able to be properly integrated and accepted into any community, hampering my ability to develop functionally, which I have to work hard every day to repair as an adult.

My right to be accepted as a kid and be able to develop social skills around people who wanted me around and therefore would speak with me in good faith absolutely trumped the rest of the community's right to hold hateful ideas. Yet here we are.

If you hate someone because of race, or gender or whatever stupid fucking superficial characteristic is a problem this time, you need to leave, not me.

[–] cricket97@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do you live that everyone around you hated you for your race? While racists do exist, your average person does not care.

Also, you don't have a right to have people around you like you.

A white racist town where I was hated and unwanted for being Black. Because that's what you're defending when you cry about free speech. That's what they believe free speech and other human rights like freedom of association means: that they can have their white-only enclaves and chase out anyone who isn't like them. They couldn't kick me out because I was a kid, but they broke me in other, far more insidious ways. And they were able to do it because it's not a free speech issue, it's a racism issue.

Also, you don’t have a right to have people around you like you.

You tell that to your compatriots whose bigotry you are defending.