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Unfortunately NASA is not being transparent here. They created a UAP task force and would not reveal who was heading it and when it is released it turns out to be someone who's spent his career with the DOD/Defense contractors. Not a scientist. Why are we not letting scientists handle this matter?
NASA also says they want to work to destigmatize UAPs and NHI, yet Bill Nelson slanders Grusch (highly decorated US military serviceman) and speaks down on anyone promoting more transparency here. The minimization of Grusch's testimony all while the DOD is withholding Grusch's security clearance and essentially stonewalling congress. Lots of reasons enough for us to be suspicious of foul play behind government figures here.
Probably hard pressed to find any reputable scientist who wants to waste their time debunking trivial bullshit.
If the bullshit was really some new type of atmospheric disturbance or anamoly, I'm sure they'd be interested in figuring out about that.
Sure, but like 99% of the time it's mundane.
It's only mundane once explained. So, like, 99% of science in general. Just keep in mind stuff like geology exists. Those are people who find rocks interesting.
"Mundane" meaning "not aliens".
So much time and money being wasted on pseudoscientific bunkum.
Right now the US military and NASA is in agreement that UAPs exist, there's thousands of citizens interested in UAPs/NHI, yet not a single scientist in the past 75 years wanted to find the answer to what these UAPs are?
Science in itself is debunking trivial bullshit until you find a rock solid solution and right now we don't have a solution.
I think NASA’s and the wider scientific community’s stance on this is less “Not a chance.” and more “If you really want us to look into this, you have to fund it.” No one is volunteering to be the official “It’s not aliens.” guy and get death threats from conspiracy theorists and shit.
And the question for us should be “How much tax money should we spend on this?” rather than “Do we want an answer?”
But do we really want an answer?
I want an answer but not from scientists. I want to know about the people who believe the aliens crash landed and the government has the spaceship. So, they have the technology to bend space and time at will or at least avoid micro-meteors the whole way. But then they get to Earth and fly directly into a tree?
Eh, shit happens even to top guns flying our latest tech. Consider the implications of the existence of life outside Earth tho. How would the public react?
The answer? You think there is only one? UAPs are a hodgepodge of anomalies. They're not a single phenomenon. There are people in various fields who would and do study them. Odd things on a radar will certainly be of interest to radar manufacturers for exqmple.
But we all know what people mean by UFOs, er., UAPs. "I'm not saying it's aliens. But it's aliens..."
Spoiler: it's not aliens.
Imagine thinking the DOD doesn't have scientists...
Ofc they do but they're compartmentalized as hell.
Why do you think Bill Nelson himself is a career politician, not a scientist? These are political figures in these positions, not scientists.
Wasn’t it headed by David Spergel who is an astrophysicist? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Spergel