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[–] gigamo@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You do you, but I don't think the two are even remotely comparable. I'd much rather live in a country run by marxist principles than one serving capital interests. The rise of China and simultaneous decline of US hegemony is one of the main sources of hope for a better future for humanity in these times, imo.

[–] beansniffer@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't China practically state capitalism and not very marxist nowadays after the days of Deng Xiaoping, or did I just fall for the propaganda memes? (no downvotes please, just a legit question)

[–] gigamo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] beansniffer@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

...but it kinda doesn't tho? Also dropping a 7000+ word article without context of my question doesn't really mean anything. Its a trend I've noticed a lot with communists: asks simple question, drops a really wordy article that doesn't answer the question. That article has an estimated reading time of over 26 minutes. Aint nobody got time for that.

[–] gigamo@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

You're asking a genuine question, I'm providing you with an elaborate answer, and yes, it does answer the question. I could have also summarized the situation and said: "yes, China is still building socialism guided by Marxist-Leninist principles, using state capitalism as a tool with which to boost their productive forces in order to eventually reach 'real' socialism", but then all you'd have is my word without any explanation or substance. The fact that you deem it "too long" isn't my problem :)

[–] HelixNebula@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In my opinion it is very unrealistic that "real" communism will ever work, because of how humans are and behave. Unfortunately I think capitalism is currently the only answer if you desire a high standard of living.

[–] Halce@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Halce@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If communism didn’t work on its own, capitalist countries wouldn’t need to constantly sanction and strangle those societies, whose goal is implementing it.

If it was a failure, they’d just let it fail on its own. But they never do that.

The only reason the American capitalists fight it so hard, because its success exposes their failure at home.

[–] HelixNebula@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't want to start a debate here and you are free to believe whatever you want. I am not saying I am right, this is - as stated - just my personal belief and opinion. Maybe you are right, but you should be careful to not be indoctrinated into a certain mindset. Try to keep an open mind at all times and don't give in to confirmation bias, while creating an echo chamber around you. It is always important to hear people thinking differently than you.