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[โ€“] maniel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

yeah, not only microwave but heater in general... but reversed, i asked myself that question for a long time, i mean we pump an electricity into the wire and we get heat, why not reverse? why we can "magically" get heat from electrons but to get something cold we need to pump the heat elsewhere, like microwave basically make atoms vibrate generating heat, would be cool to be able to generate some field that makes atoms stop

[โ€“] lauha@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

You cannot just destroy energy. When you "make atoms stop" the energy from atoms have to go somewhere.

Usually atoms radiate heat away.

[โ€“] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Heat is energy release, your start with stored energy and release it. To make something cold you either have to capture energy (hard) or move it away (heat pump / refrigeration)

Laser setups that can cool individual atoms exists but they're not trivial whatsoever and they cool them by canceling atomic movement by hitting them with lasers opposing their current momentum to slow them down (cooling). It can not be scaled up in any practical way.

[โ€“] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

Friction mostly. And smallnforces that act like friction in ways I am not smart enough to explain