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I've definitely turned into the paranoid nutcase within my friend group in recent years, I hate that everything is "smart" nowadays requiring an app/internet connection & account, just to do basic things that didn't require any of that before.

What's some things currently making you ramble like an old man?

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[โ€“] raven@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Laws that aren't intended to be actually enforced, but serve as cover for a search or whatever other cop activity. Seat belt, drug, and helmet laws for example. I don't think it's even about tickets it's just reason to pull you over and brow beat you for a while.

You're telling me the state that doesn't give a fuck if I die from gesticulates generally around suddenly cares whether I make a personal decision about my own safety?

This is coming from someone who wears his seat belt 100% of the time and gets car sick if I don't, who has been ticketed for not wearing one even though I was. meow-tableflip

[โ€“] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way I heard it the insurance companies lobbied for seatbelt laws.

Something about if you die in an accident the payout could be larger than if you survived.

Opposite for motorcycles and helmets. On a bike you aren't eligible for the same death payout as someone in a car so it's cheaper if you die.

Again this is just how I heard it and I've never cared enough to actually look into any of this at all but on the surface and seems plausible.

[โ€“] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something about if you die in an accident the payout could be larger than if you survived.

It's not that. It's that they can deny the payout if you broke the law.

[โ€“] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Ahhhh ok. That does make more sense.

[โ€“] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

To add to this, I feel this with recent updated road laws here to make them more "cycling friendly", a trend that laws keep getting written that are either impossible to enforce the way they're written or nobody gives a shit either. Basically just making the question of liablity easier after the fact. Which seems sort of like a very shit proposition for road laws to me