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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's just it: the assumption that so many smug wine cave warriors have is that every battle involves unquestioned technological superiority as a given, with no countermeasures possible except maybe "those damn rules of engagement" which they can blame for setbacks.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What rules of engagement? Yankee forces routinely bomb civilians. Although I suppose wine cave bastards ignore that

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What rules of engagement? Yankee forces routinely bomb civilians.

Exactly. Such rules only exist as an after the fact excuse for any setbacks or defeats. They aren't actually practiced with any consistency.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s like how copaganda uses the loose cannon trope to show how cops are only bad because of pesky “laws” and “regulations”

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Decades of that shit have normalized the idea that the only way to beat the bad guys is to put less oversight and accountability on the good guys. galaxy-brain

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ukraine forces literally used Ukraine citizens as hostages and shields during the first few months, keeping them locked in basements under their fortifications and not letting them leave on the Russian free passage routes

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsWKXDKI-0

eye witness accounts

Russia had an agreement where they had daily ceasefires and a safe evacuation route, and they held it open for weeks and nobody went down them. Ukraine forbade civilians from evacuating and escaping, and then whined and complained about civilians being attacks when Russia sieged mariupol

[–] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

That's been their MO for years now, they are so used to invading countries with no more organized resistance than some guerilla fighters (who usually end up beating them back anyway), they can't help but underestimate The Bad Guys as being technologically inferior to them. The idea of fighting someone that has most of, if not all of, the same capabilities as you is absolutely foreign to them.

Even after over a year of evidence being provided to the contrary, they simply cannot believe it.

[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's literally NATO doctrine. Can't blame them for following doctrine.