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They get unnecessarily VIOLENTLY angry if you address how other political issues are also important.

They are rabid, and do not have 'chill' mode. It's impossible talking to them at all. They also force their beliefs about using public transportation on everyone when they don't take into account that not everyone lives in a city.

Also, they fail to acknowledge that public transportation is not safe.

Listen, I get that climate change is a thing. But it's not THEE ultimate and almighty issue.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, great post!

That is a truly unpopular opinion.

And, you aren't wrong about most of it! The only thing I'd disagree with is the relative importance of the issue. Even that's only because we're at a tipping point where shit is getting close to being impossible to fix.

I agree that there's a shit ton of zealotry around the subject, and that public transportation is not the answer to the problem everywhere. Folks that live in rural areas simply can't use public transport because it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist because there's got enough tax base to support it. And there's not enough population to use it even if it was economically feasible. That means that you're still causing the same amount of pollution unless the area can support electric bases transport, which isn't always possible.

And, you're dead on with public transport not being safe everywhere. Even in fairly stable cities with good levels of security personnel have troubles. All you have to do is check places like r/subwaycreatures used to be, or publicfreakouts, or the lemmy equivalents, and you'll see that even in places with great subway or bus service, you aren't guaranteed a safe ride.

And places with less security? There's way too many stories of women being damn near raped on busses in countries around the world to pretend that humanity is trustworthy in tight, cramped busses and trains.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Folks that live in rural areas simply can’t use public transport because it doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist because there’s got enough tax base to support it. And there’s not enough population to use it even if it was economically feasible

There was a recent thread around here somewhere about a small town that replaced its bus service with a public on call van service. They compared themselves to a public version of Uber but with fares like a bus service.

Yes you can have transit anywhere: it just may have different forms