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[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do you consider that a rebuttal?

[–] Coryneform@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes because it's not anything intelligent enough to be thoughtfully argued against. a 7 year old could see the holes in such an idea

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I oppose one more system of authority than you do, in the interest of ideological consistency, intellectual honesty.

are you taking the position of a literal child?

[–] Coryneform@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is revolution not putting the authority of the people over those in power, and bringing those people low? that's "hierarchy"

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

that depends if you draw distinction between the people and the state (which is merely an abstraction of capital)

state capitalism, as defined by lenin, is not a classless society, and is indefensible as a liberatory philosophy.

just as liberalism abolished the monarchy only to replace it with a dictatorship of private capital, authoritarian socialism replaced monarchy with a beaurocratic ruling class and unilateral control of the means of production.

the neck cares not the color of the boot

[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for posting this.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

how is a small group of people commanding a big mass better?
at least over time there will always be power hungry asshole or just an idiot in position of power.

no power for no one is the only concept that can really work over time. but you need self-responsible and educated people for that

edit: and yeah, it is a utopian idea, but one I believe it is worth working for