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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anarchy worked great in practice, until Franco killed it.

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am not sure what your point is. I have no problems with anarchists and I am inclined to agree with you. Sadly, the capitalist countries of Europe were not interested in fighting against fascism.

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have no problems with anarchists

Stalin did

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, what is your point? Did you expect Stalin to support anarchists? I am really not sure what you are getting at here.

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he really was trying to build communism, then yes.

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would Stalin, a Marxist-Leninist, support anarchism?

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they both want to achieve communism and fascist taking power (like happen in real life) would suck

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The biggest sinners in the Spanish civil war were the capitalist onlookers who openly allowed Hitler and Mussolini to support Franco and the fascists. While it was a sad affair how the anti-fascist side broke down into infighting, it was almost inevitable with how many different ideologies were represented on the anti-fascist side. The fascist side also saw some infighting and what could be described as a coup before consolidating into a more uniform force.

[–] PlasmaK@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or stalinists could just not infight

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well, maybe I read you wrong then.

I completely agree that imperialistic capitalism is cancer - and USA and China are the current front runners...

[–] BuGiJu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is a victim of imperialism. I look forward to the day China tramples the US and the rest of the imperialist Western goons.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

China is an Imperialist states which defined its current borders by violence. Xinjiang and Tibet did not voluntarily federate with the Chinese State. They were subjugated by force.

China is best compared to Russia.

And the century of humiliation is long gone.

And lest we forget, the most recent Imperialism to face China was Asian. And not Western.

[–] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Anarchy worked great in practice, until Franco killed it.

It is worth mentioning that this means it did not work in practice because it was killed! Yes, the same can be said of ML projects like Burkina Faso that were toppled and thereby had very little they were able to pass on in the long term except lessons (Sankara was incredible and his band mate who betrayed him was a bastard). Communes are great when you don't have capitalist-aligned states who want to destroy you, but currently the state of the world is one where capitalist encirclement is an inevitability.